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Bob D. (La) 
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 Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 12:45pm |
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When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!!
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GlenninPA
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 1:11pm |
Funny, an 8n was all we had growing up. I LOVED that little tractor. It did everything we ever asked it to, and that was a lot. Then Dad bought a Fordson Major Diesel with a loader on it. The thing pulled like a mule and steered like a tank. The steering wheel had deteriorated and tore up your hands, as well as making them filthy. Fast forward to when I left for college, Dad bought a Massey 175 w/ Perkins engine and you couldn't have asked for a better machine. Still used on the home place.
I have Dad's 8N and FMD now, maybe someday they will get gussied up again.....
I did not like the Ford 800 of my uncles, it would not stay in gear worth a crap. His Oliver 770 was a nice baling tractor but no 3 point... I have to admit, I loved to shove the hand clutch forward on his John Deere 630, then push the throttle forward and listen to it pop. I liked the Deeres, but couldn't take the JD people.....
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mlpankey
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 1:15pm |
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i thought a farmall cub was the most useless but not the worst from a mechanical stand point . a small jenny had more power than twoo cubs hooked together.
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Spud
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 1:22pm |
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The Massey 100 series were a good machine when Massey was at the Peak of it's game in North America. Then they brought out the 2000 series and they have been trying to recover from them ever since.
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Donald A Smith
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 3:01pm |
2n8n9n ford junk hate not safe at any speed
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Hudsonator
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 3:22pm |
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There isn't much a WC can't do.
WD's just do it better.
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SHAMELESS
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 4:07pm |
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dad bought a new jd 3020 in 1970, what a POS!!! and jd wouldn't stand behind it!! used a neighbors 9n once to pull a litter spreader, backed up beside the barn, scooped it full, went outside and the front wheels were off the ground...had to scoop the front 1/3 rd of the spreader back in the barn so i could steer it. went to the field and when the litter got back to the speaders, the back wheels of the tractor came off the ground far enough i couldn't get traction!! ENDED UP HAVING TO GET INSIDE THE SPREADER AND LEVELING OUT THE LITTER so i could get the load off!!! it was just a jd model H spreader. took all day to clean out one room in the barn...took it back to the neighbor and thanked him!!
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Brian S(NY)
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 5:11pm |
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God made man.Sam colt made man equal.
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archangel_cpj
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 5:36pm |
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John Deere 4440 with the Quad shift thing in it I worked for a guy who had one and besides lacking pull at 466ci(I think the 426 had more) It would stick like an SOB you would bout have to tug till you broke the handle off to get it in gear Id take a PS 7000 series over that any day...
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StanOhio
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 8:59pm |
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Anything JD. To hard to work on and cost too much, not user friendly.
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Nate (OH)
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 9:21pm |
 DiyDave wrote:
Worst tractor (series) ever made was no doubt the international British tractors. The B 275, B404, 414, 424, and the construction versions, the 2404, 2414, 2424! Most under- powered, hard to find parts for, even when new, bathtubs full of gears, ever devised to drive a mechanic to drink ! But, hey, that's just my $.02 |
We have a 424 and have no complaints about it. Used it today to push snow started rigth up on first try. We just use it for basic farm duties, nothing major but always has plenty of power. Always use it to mow the waterways the dual clutch is a blessing. Parts are not too hard to find in this area, although pricey at times but we are the origional owners so its been meticulously maintained its entire life though. But to each their own.
Edited by Nate (OH) - 08 Jan 2010 at 9:30pm
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powertech84
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 9:56pm |
Personally i'd have to say a belarus is the worst tractor i've ever driven.
I know if i asked my dad he'd say the d19. Not only did he send the tractor down the road, he threw the toy away too. Guess he got disgusted looking at it.
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Carl(NWWI)
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 10:39pm |
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any John Deere 2 cylinder, they annoy the crap outta me, and 4020's, 4010's are close..lol
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LouSWPA
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Posted: 08 Jan 2010 at 11:11pm |
GlenninPA wrote:
Funny, an 8n was all we had growing up. I LOVED that little tractor. It did everything we ever asked it to, and that was a lot. Then Dad bought a Fordson Major Diesel with a loader on it. The thing pulled like a mule and steered like a tank. The steering wheel had deteriorated and tore up your hands, as well as making them filthy. Fast forward to when I left for college, Dad bought a Massey 175 w/ Perkins engine and you couldn't have asked for a better machine. Still used on the home place.
I have Dad's 8N and FMD now, maybe someday they will get gussied up again.....
I did not like the Ford 800 of my uncles, it would not stay in gear worth a crap. His Oliver 770 was a nice baling tractor but no 3 point... I have to admit, I loved to shove the hand clutch forward on his John Deere 630, then push the throttle forward and listen to it pop. I liked the Deeres, but couldn't take the JD people..... |
Well Smiling Mouse, I'm sure they had their use, but between sucking exhaust each time I hooked up, the hideous clutch/brake pedals, no live PTO, and all the busted knuckles from the lack of space between steering wheel and throttle lever assembly, I just didn't enjoy mine. And many repair jobs that should be simple were major operations due to the frameless construction. I couldn't get the wheel bearings sealed on mine, so I never had breaks (brakes, ya just can't trust spell check! LOL). After wrestling the rear end apart two times to fix the seal issue and replace grease soaked brake shoes, I finally had enough and sold it. I then bought my first WD from a neighbor. On the WD, I can remove the hydraulic pump and fix it w/o disassembling the tractor (unlike the 9N), it can slobber grease from all the seals in the tractor and I won't loose my brakes (unlike the 9N), I can replace brake shoes w/o disassembling the tractor (unlike the 9N) (ya, there is the pesky sticking shoe pin to deal with), etc, etc, etc. But, having said all that, Glenn, I must admit, they are still a very popular tractor in many areas. In fact, when I sold the 9N and bought the WD, I still had $1200 in my pocket! (and the WD came with a W9 loader)
Edited by LouSWPA - 08 Jan 2010 at 11:13pm
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 12:03am |
I will agree on the 350 JD, was looking at one but the BANG-SCREECH trany scared me so bad I only ran it a few minutes and that was enough. What a piece of design flaw junk.
Ford 8N were great for the guy who wanted to play farmer, no power, weak spindles, and if hooked onto anything the front end was up in the air.
Worked on 9000 Ford another engeneering blunder, bad trany, bad brakes, but looked nice in blue and white.
Looked at a IH 404 but decided on the IH 460 when i traded off my IH 300 but both the 300 and 460 have weak steering shafts and have done a lot of repairs on the gears in them.
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Jordan(OH)
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 12:43am |
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What was wrong with the 9000 Ford? Brakes were far better than what AC had at the time and for several years after. Never heard of a tranny problem either. We have a Ford 8000(9000 w/o turbo) with probably 7000 hrs. and its still going good.
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Claus
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 12:50am |
powertech84 wrote:
Personally i'd have to say a belarus is the worst tractor i've ever driven.
I know if i asked my dad he'd say the d19. Not only did he send the tractor down the road, he threw the toy away too. Guess he got disgusted looking at it. |
What did you Dad not like about the D19? Both my Dad and Grandfather owned D19s. Grandpa's was a wimp, Dad's was a narrow front, had a rotovator on it before Dad bought it, it was a worn out tractor. I would not mind owning a nice D19, they were a good looking tractor.
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Rick of HopeIN
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 8:18am |
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I pretty much used neighbors tractors of every shape and size in the later sixties and thru the seventies. Can't recall big issues with most of them. The JDs up to the 70s were built well, and easy to repair. I was always impressed that the stuff just seemed to work, was easy to hook up, did not seem to break unless we did something dumb. Don't know about the later stuff.
A long day in the seat of a JD 3020 was much more comfortable than on our Case 830 of the same vintage, the controls and steering were just awesome. They really leapfrogged the competition with that series and I think it sealed their reputation for many years. The Allis in our area had faded away by then so I cannot compare to the AC products of that time. Seemed like every farm had a WD, a few D series but not much after that.
The Ford and similar Masseys were common because they were handy around the barns. Skid steers and little 4 wheelers had not even been thought of. We had a D14 with a real good industrial loader on the farm that was the envy of the neighborhood but that was uncommon.
My Dad lived off the farm and we always had yard tractors around the house for us to mow with and clear driveway, etc. When he bought a Farm and Fleet (MTD) 16HP that was a true piece of crap. Eventually it was scrapped and the Sears and Jacobsens that were ten years older stayed around to do the yard work with rebuilt Kohlers.
Brother eventually bought a little JD 850 (Yanmar) to be the main utility tractor on the ten acres and still has that, used regularly. Added a loader last year. Handy as heck.
Edited by Rick of HopeIN - 09 Jan 2010 at 8:19am
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powertech84
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 2:24pm |
Claus,
It spent more time broke down than running. This was well before my wrenching days so he had to hire someone, and it wasn't long before he had spent more on fixing it than what he paid for it. I liked driving it, but ole pa said if i ever buy one its not allowed on his farm. Farmers can be quite bitter about money pits i guess.
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weiner43
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 2:58pm |
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John Deere 70
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God bless our troops and the United States of America.
Pick your rut well, you may be in it a long time.
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SCPAAndy
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 5:29pm |
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AC 7010 with powershift. Transmission was junk
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ToddSin NY
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 6:21pm |
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Ford 3500 industrial by far the largest POS on the farm!! I've hated!!! this tractor from the day dad brought it home! WAY under powered for what it is. 35 hp for the weight of this tractor is way too little. When you lift up more than a table spoon of gravel the rear end comes off the ground. When out in fresh plowed ground trying to pick rock you have to go wide open and keep up the momentum or your stuck! I remember so many times the bucket would be full and all this POS would do is sit there and spin. Dad would say "Todd go get the wagon and the 45 (with a full load of rock already on it) and pull under the bucket so I can dump it here!!" Picking rock is tough enough without haveing to work with this POS!!!
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Dave King
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 7:02pm |
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JD 8630. Just like archangel described the quad range shift characteristics.
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ac crazy
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 11:17pm |
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i would say either one of my 1965 2010's the gas or diesel due to brakes failing and when traveling down roads, on deceleration they would chatter and grind.... the shifters stunk and the three points where slow coming up.also they cost too much to repair today.
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If i can't fix it i won't.
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Denis in MI
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Posted: 09 Jan 2010 at 11:25pm |
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I have never driven a tractor I didn't like and have all kinds IH, JD, Ford, Avery, Leader, and of course AC. any of them beat using a horse for work in my opinion
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1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14
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Chuck C
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Posted: 10 Jan 2010 at 7:44am |
1947 Case VAC, narrow front, with a PTO pump loader. A funeral waiting to happen. The guy gave it to me to get it out of his yard. I think I paid too much.
It doesn't live here anymore.
Chuck
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Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 4:37pm |
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The International 2+2 series, Loud Hyd. pump, I was plowing and it broke in half, I understand it was designed as a row crop tractor, but you can't put duels on them, weak trans and axles. they are nice to knock things over with there long nose. LOL
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7080,7040,220,185,&6080 FWA that was sold to Larry Karg.
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JoeO(CMO)
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Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 4:58pm |
I can think of two that are tied-
John Deere "B" and
Case "DC".
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michaelwis
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Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 5:03pm |
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WHEN YOU BUY A LONG I AM TOLD YOU GET THE SHORT END OF THE DEAL ?
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WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer
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Dennis IL
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Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 6:38pm |
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The 9N was a nightmare! I always felt cramped up. I will say I did like where the clutch pedal was and it was pretty stable on ditch mowing but that's all I can say good about it.
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