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To me, it’s officially worn out when no parts are available. New or used. Then its a parts tractor.
When I bought my 190xt, the draw bar hole was oblong, obviously lots of draw bar time on it. At some point a 301cu from a 7020 was swapped out. 190 pump was reinstalled. Lift arms were not worn as bad. So she got new life at the expense of another donor tractor.
1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Originally posted by AC720Man AC720Man wrote:

To me, it’s officially worn out when no parts are available. New or used. Then its a parts tractor.

Sounds like the time I contemplated buying a MM ZAU a while back...price was right and condition was decent, but looking online, wear parts are virtually non-existent. If I can't get parts, I don't want it.
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The key is fixing everything when it needs fixing. You can keep a tractor going a long time doing it that way.

What often happens though is the steering gets sloppy and the farmer just deals with it. It starts using oil and leaking and the solution is to add more oil. Stuff replaced with bailing wire and duct tape fixes. Soon enough you end up with a tractor where almost everything is worn out. When you reach that point, its cost prohibitive to get it back into usable shape. Like when the engine finally blows, it's not worth putting the money in a rebuild when the rest of the tractor is on its last leg.

Farmers can be the worlds worst about "jerry" rigging something and never get around to actually fix it.

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I think you guys got it. Sometimes it's neglect but sometimes it's just the economics. For example. We have an F2 that we have had for 20 years. It's a good machine but it's probably due for most chains and belts. Not beyond due but ready. The engine has always had low compression and won't start without either. Once running it runs good. As it so happens we bought an F3 last august to replace it but didn't have time to get it in shape. While I was servicing the F2 it ran a bit of antifreeze out when I changed the oil. So we limped through with water and pump lube and drained it last fall. The problem is it doesn't make sense to change or rebuild the engine and it's worth more in parts than selling as is. It's still a good machine but by default I think it is now wore out. Unless someone wants to buy it. I can honestly say it's not neglected and is probably in the top 10% but they only sell for $2500 around here.

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