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Jordan(OH) 
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 Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 10:50am |
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Wait, is that panky's engine you're rebuilding?
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Dmpaul89
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 10:09am |
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Give him a break guys! He was just misinformed. Flame the teacher! (And no I didnt do it).
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 9:21am |
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He obviously did not watch your oil pan video! These engines aren't cheap to overhaul, can't believe someone goes to the expense then does that.
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BenGiBoy
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 9:16am |
 TedBuiskerN.IL. wrote:
I think all of us have learned by a mistake or two, I know I have.
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I think that you're right. We just need to learn from others mistakes, instead of making them again to 'test if it works for me' Some good lessons here......
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TedBuiskerN.IL.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 9:07am |
I think all of us have learned by a mistake or two, I know I have.
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BenGiBoy
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 9:02am |
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I'm taking notes!
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 8:11am |
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Needed a couple more tubes of RTV and he would be good to go. I do find it strange that if he took the engine apart and found no RTV why he thought it was good to put it together with a gallon of the stuff. Even if he was steered in the wrong direction the engine worked for 50 years as is.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 8:09am |
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Someone needed to ask him, "did it look that way when it came from the factory?" Obviously this guy got his advice from some real experts.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 8:06am |
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Don,
Thanks for posting things like this. A lot of us work on our own stuff and having a expert like you point out what not to do is almost as good as what needs to be done right.
Thanks for taking the time to put these pictures up.
I wondered what that burnt mark was on the soft plug. So that's from rubbing on the end of the cam?
Just some sloppy work with the silicone all over the block to pan gasket area.
Regards,
Chris
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Fred in Pa
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 7:37am |
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A lot of people think they can read something and that what ever they do is going to work. Some of this stuff that comes in to My Shop sometimes is unreal .
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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 7:28am |
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I have not pulled the cam to look at it yet but the one shot is the rear cam plug and it has had the paint burnt off it, so it might be just drove in to hard but it's burnt the paint and that's wrong. I know what site posted the use of silicone on sleeve installing (the clown said to use lots of it on and around the sleeves)and at the time I read this it was hard not to start posting on there just to stop this crap from being spread. the owner used Ultra Gray Silicone around the sleeves and in the O-ring grooves without using the O-rings. I'm not putting this on the owner, he was just doing what was posted to do and that's BAD INFO. The coolant was running down the sleeves after all the crap around the sleeves because the block was broken and had a bolt holding in place. The oil pump screen is covered with silicone.
All I can say is sad!
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Charlie175
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 5:43am |
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Looks like Never-Seize on the liners?
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 5:25am |
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Wow! Pretty scary stuff! Well, back to the drawing board.....
That engine is in good hands now!!
Edited by Steve in NJ - 22 Apr 2016 at 5:25am
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Posted: 22 Apr 2016 at 5:19am |
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I am with you Don, hate to see it. Obviously the guy spent a lot of time cleaning and spent money on new parts then messed the whole deal up.
Many years ago a 350 HP 396 Chevy engine came into my shop that was in identical shape except the main and rod caps were all blue/ Most everything the guy spent $$ had to be replaced after 10 lbs of silicone and Teflon tape bits plugged up the oil screen on the maiden voyage.
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Jordan(OH)
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 11:37pm |
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We don't need no stinking gasket set!
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 11:33pm |
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What's that around the sleeves and on the freeze plug? |
I don't know, but it sure looks like JB weld to me... I've never done a wet sleeved engine, yet, but I have overhauled more than a few gasoline engines; both small and automotive. New gaskets peeking out look okay, globs of silicone oozing unevenly from various places ruin the pride of a job well done. Robert
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 10:53pm |
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Yea and said was doing an engine job
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 10:50pm |
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sad that someone done this. but i cant help but think what the parts store thought when he came in and bought all the gasket glue lol
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 10:42pm |
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What's that around the sleeves and on the freeze plug?
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 10:38pm |
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Wow
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 10:16pm |
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try to find the forum where he got that info, and we'll all converge on it!
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 10:14pm |
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bet a green person told him all this!
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 9:53pm |
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I forgot to add the oil pan still leaked after the goop spread on the block/pan.
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 9:49pm |
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