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Sugarmaker 
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 Posted: 25 May 2021 at 9:18pm |
Yes! Correct tooling, and lots of gentle leverage! Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 07 Jun 2021 at 7:22am |
Folks, Just a brief update in the world of this old orange tractor! So I have been taking this unit to tractor pulls and having a good time! The engine is fresh and runs real good. After I pulled Saturday and was moving the tractor around on Sunday morning, I noticed that it seemed to be stuck in reverse. Having rebuilt the shift tower I was a little surprised, but hey its still a old tractor and things happen. So I pried out the snap ring, pulled the shifter, and gently moved the center shifting fork back to neutral. Re assembled and she acts fine again. Don't know how or why, but crap does happen! Maybe she was just a little ticked I didnt give her a pat on the head for this:
Hope things are good in orange land!
Regards, Chris
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garden_guy
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Posted: 07 Jun 2021 at 8:35am |
Nice work Chris!! Winning pulls, that's awesome!
My one WD (the one I haven't gotten fixed up yet) got stuck in reverse for the first time circa 1999 or so. Has happened a few times since then, but we bored out the keyway and put in an oversized pin and it seemed to help the slop. But I am still paranoid when I'm out driving it. Never was quite sure how it happened, but I always figured it was something about the twist of the curved shifter that let it slip out at an odd angle from the rail... But never could confirm it. Hasn't happened in many years, knock on wood. I have a new curved shifter to install one of these days as the old one was hacked up on both ends.
I put a new 12V battery in that tractor this weekend and she wouldn't fire up... So I ordered a new ground strap and battery cable, as the battery itself seems good. Figure to at least make the starter spin, as long as the cable to the starter is good and the ground strap is good and the starter button works, it should at least spin the engine over. Starting there. Getting a jump start on fixing up the other tractor now I guess.
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MDWilliams338
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Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 12:38am |
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Hey Chris! Glad you still got this ol girl and looks like you eventually did put a new Booster gauge on it too?
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Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 5:50am |
Mike, Good to hear from you! How are you? I think last time we talked you were having back issues? Tell your Dad and Mom hello from us in NWPA.
Yes this is the second gauge. First one the needle broke off during plowing. Sandy Lake stood behind the failure and sent me a replacement. The new one, I added a coat of clear to the body as the first one had a little surface rust after a year or so.
Shifter seems to be working fine after a removal and "adjustment"!
Regards, Chris
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Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 9:37am |
 Sugarmaker wrote:
Mike, Good to hear from you! How are you? I think last time we talked you were having back issues? Tell your Dad and Mom hello from us in NWPA.
Yes this is the second gauge. First one the needle broke off during plowing. Sandy Lake stood behind the failure and sent me a replacement. The new one, I added a coat of clear to the body as the first one had a little surface rust after a year or so.
Shifter seems to be working fine after a removal and "adjustment"!
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Doing good Chris…been a helluva year but good and busy. Well it’s still looking good for sure.I didn’t even know you had gotten a new gauge…think when we came by you still had the original.
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Posted: 18 Aug 2021 at 7:53am |
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GG, Yes they need to go over center till the tab on the eccentric bolt rest against the bracket. I had to use a cheater on each one I did. You might be able to use a impact, but you don't have the same control or feel, but the vibration might bring it over center. Your idea of moving may be good, and work, but I never moved mine till I had all the eccentrics in place and tight. Others may have better ideas than I on getting them tight. Also I do this with no weight on the wheel. Regards, Chris
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Well thanks to this I got inspired to go crank down the eccentrics on my tractor (you may have seen it in my other thread). Two foot breaker bar and lots of sweating. I had it on the ground when I did it and worked from the bottom up. The top one on each side was a total bear. I think it came out pretty good, as it is where the wheels naturally wanted to sit in the middle, though the one on the right doesn't seem perfectly straight.... But I don't remember it being straight back with the old rim either when I got it from grandpa (and it had ballast in it then). Feels good to have them locked and knowing they aren't going to "move" on me, though for sure.
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Posted: 18 Aug 2021 at 1:09pm |
GG, Yea these are not for the faint of heart! Very tight but when cleaned and lubed they should go over center and lock with a nice steady pressure as you show. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 18 Aug 2021 at 3:29pm |
Hi Chris, Glad to see that your fixerupper is all fixed up now!
I was reading up a little bit about your traction boost gauge. My new one did the same thing. I took Charlie Tucker's advice from here and bought a 5000PSI liquid filled gauge. It's been working for about 7 years now!
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Posted: 19 Aug 2021 at 3:38pm |
Sugarmaker wrote:
GG, Yea these are not for the faint of heart! Very tight but when cleaned and lubed they should go over center and lock with a nice steady pressure as you show. Regards, Chris |
I hear that! Interestingly getting them to about the 2/3rds mark was the hardest, after that, it was a constant pressure to lock them all the way down. I definitely put a lot of "muscle" into it, but I am so glad they are fully locked down now, as I was really concerned about having them slip on me.
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Posted: 19 Aug 2021 at 6:28pm |
A little oil might help them turn a lot easier. We had a '53 WD, and moved the wheels a couple times a year, and used the tools that came with it, don't remember needing a cheater.
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Posted: 20 Aug 2021 at 9:42pm |
Dusty sure has the correct approach. If these wheel eccentrics got moved a couple times a year and lubed also, I am sure they would function a lot better. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 22 Aug 2021 at 3:21pm |
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Hey Mr Chris!! Been doing a lot with this ‘ol girl huh? Sure still looks good.BTW…copper based anti seize works wonders on stuff like eccentrics and other hateful stuff that likes to seize up over time.
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Posted: 23 Aug 2021 at 7:43am |
MD, Good to hear from you! Tell Dad and Mom I said hi. Looking forwards to your next visit! Planning to go to a tractor pull this Saturday in nearby NY state. Meaders has a good pull I am told. just for fun. Run what you brung, Bragging rights only no trophies or money. They have a doubeltree pull that I want to see. Should be interesting. Friend Jim may haul for me he has a nice trailer like you do. So we could take 2 Allis tractors. Will try to get some pictures. The WD45 seems to do pretty well but the WZ doesnt seem to have the spunk I expected. Wondering if the gleaner engine is somehow set up different on the governor components. Like maybe the governor spring is different for a combine engine?? Regards, Chris
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Posted: 23 Aug 2021 at 6:36pm |
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Hey Chris..yessir I sure will tell them and as humid as it’s been down here I’m ready to come up for a visit 😁.I’m not sure about the gov set between the two but I would suspect you’re likely right to speculate a difference.
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Posted: 23 Aug 2021 at 7:05pm |
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CONGRATS on the pull and the win Chris! That trophy is worth all that work!
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