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cornbinder 
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 Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 5:55am |
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it's value and what it could possibly take to buy could very well be very different............
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Unit3
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 6:58am |
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Is there a S.N. range that the 220FWA would have only been made in? Did they crank out all 100 back to back?
Is there also a location that they ended up in or did they go all over the country?
Edited by Unit3 - 04 Jan 2013 at 7:00am
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 7:00am |
I would LOVE to add one to my collection, but I need to add a D21 to make my D series Collection complete.
Out of my price range anyway
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
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Jim in MO
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 7:18am |
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they made 75 and sold the 25 went to 2 wheel dr jim in Mo.
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Brian F(IL)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 7:24am |
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I know at least two of them went through my Dad's dealership in Onarga, IL back in the '70's.
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 7:55am |
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It's my understanding that 100 220 MFD's were built and about 20 were returned and converted back to 2 wd.
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TerryMN
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 8:22am |
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Where are we getting that any of the 100 220 fwa were converted back to 2wd? Just asking, is it in one of the allis books. I don't remeber ever reading it. Maybe someone could quote the section and what book that information came out of.
I think you guys are thinking of the test D21s with Hyd fwa. To my knowledge none of the 220 fwa where converted to 2wd at the allis factory. Please correct with facts from a source if I am wrong.
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ACFarmer
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 9:05am |
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I'd give 10 grand for it and be in the truck from Ohio to get it in a heartbeat.
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Mike_426
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 10:29am |
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Couldn't have been parked before the late eighties with those short bar long bar tires on the front
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LRWSPWI
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 10:38am |
Someone should try to save her before more parts are gone, or mother nature ends up winning. Sad to see her sitting like that. 
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GM Guy
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 12:19pm |
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try and get the Serial number, dad has been keeping track of the 220 FWA serial numbers. so far no consecutive ones, but then again, the list is small, just the ones he knows of himself.
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mm1468
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 12:38pm |
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Where is the ser num tag? The only one I can find is on the engine block.
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Unit3
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 1:37pm |
I looked up what is listed here and found 10-220FWA. 3 without S.N. S.N. & Year 1916-1969 2234-1970 2283-1970 2286-1970 2384-1970 2389-1970 2408-1970
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 2:11pm |
 Unit3 wrote:
I looked up what is listed here and found 10-220FWA. 3 without S.N.
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1916-1969
2234-1970
2283-1970
2286-1970
2384-1970
2389-1970
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The very first 220 FWA was serial # 2223 built on June 3, 1970. All 100 220 FWA were built in 1970.
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 2:20pm |
mm1468 wrote:
Where is the ser num tag? The only one I can find is on the engine block. |
It should be stamped into the casting at the front of the Torque tube on the LH side.
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 2:22pm |
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Did all the operators manuals have the 4wd section at the back??
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mm1468
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 2:53pm |
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How many of the 100 does your dad have ser numbers for? Are they all over US and Canada?
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DanWi
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 5:01pm |
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Not to discourage your son on an allis project but working on the john deere would be like working on a small block chevy, tons of parts available, but with the allis restoration parts may be harder to find. But I do hope that this tractor goes to a good home that can restore it, wether it be you or others, looks like the hood laying on the ground in the one pic. Would be nice if most of it was there.
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JayIN
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 5:31pm |
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It SHOULD be able to be able to be bought for 5000 or less. This is just neglect; plain and simple. I agree that it is worth 10000, but this Guy that owns it now doesn't deserve it. All he did was run it in the ground. I agree within the short bar/long bar tires. Good call !!!!! Restoring a JD is a cop out. TOO EASY!
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AMB(wcIL)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 9:49pm |
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Looks like a good a good start to one, go for it. I have a sales brochure for the 220 fwa tractor and on the cover the tractor has the starter weight and 6 little weights. The brochure says the front end weight is 7,400# rear end weight is 12,600# with duals and ballast. Front tire size is 14.9x24 rear 18.4x38. PTO horsepower 135. The fine print at the bottom says (This tractor is not for sale in the State of Nebraska) Andy
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 10:00pm |
AMB(wcIL) wrote:
Looks like a good a good start to one, go for it. I have a sales brochure for the 220 fwa tractor and on the cover the tractor has the starter weight and 6 little weights. The brochure says the front end weight is 7,400# rear end weight is 12,600# with duals and ballast. Front tire size is 14.9x24 rear 18.4x38. PTO horsepower 135. The fine print at the bottom says (This tractor is not for sale in the State of Nebraska) Andy |
The owners manual devotes a whole page to show all the different weighting possibilities to keep the proper front to rear weight ratio which they stress is very important for tire life. The most front weight they list is the starter weight and 6 smaller weights. Guess this guy didn't read his manual!
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D-17_Dave
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 10:03pm |
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Bigger question I have is why wasn't it availiable in Nebraska?
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Yea, I can fix that.....
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AMB(wcIL)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 10:04pm |
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Yep, sounds that way! Andy
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 10:05pm |
D-17_Dave wrote:
Bigger question I have is why wasn't it availiable in Nebraska? |
My guess is the fwd wasn't tested at the Nebraska Tractor Tests.
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 10:05pm |
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It wasn't tested at the Nebraska test would be my guess. Andy
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Matt MN
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 10:30pm |
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My opinion on a price for it would be.
It is in tough shape but appears to have all the Key FWD parts. Yes it is going to take a good running 2wd 220 as a doner to be able to complete easily, It is going to take a lot of time to complete the restoration.
so figure $10,000 for a doner 220, about another $10,000 for the restoration, and from what I have seen in 2012 prices on these tractors a good restored one should be worth $35,000 to $40,000 so as it sits there it should be worth $10,000 to $15,000. Remember these tractors are a limited build tractor and are holding there value well.
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 10:33pm |
AMB(wcIL) wrote:
It wasn't tested at the Nebraska test would be my guess. Andy |
Correct. It was an expensive proposition to test a tractor at Nebraska.
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 11:01pm |
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The reason your having a hard time finding the serial # is because it looks as if that brand of cab conceals it from easy viewing. Look right under the left front corner of cab behind the front brace
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mm1468
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 11:50pm |
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that is where the batt goes. next time i am out where the tractor is i will stop by and see if i can find it. is is on a silver tag with rivits or is it stamped into a flat casting? thanks
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Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 12:40am |
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It will be stamped into the casting.
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