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Train flat car loaded with Steel wheel B's & C's

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    Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:10pm
Here is a picture out of one of my books. Nothing like a train car full Steel wheel tractors  getting ready to leave the factory.
 Have a good one    Bill P
 
 
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Very cool picture! I love seeing pictures of the B's and C's on steel wheels!!
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This picture is for you Bill Long. I bet you saw them like this, arive with no lugs or guide bans on the wheels.
 Have a good one BILL P

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Was it only the B's that had the flat topped fenders for steel wheels?
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Yup because the C's had a wider rear wheel stance. BILL P

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Two things about it , multi tractor shipment by rail and steel wheels on tractors.
Seems lot of tractors are now on truck shipments but do see a few on train cars yet.
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I like them oldies too. Thanks Bill  Keep em coming.
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I really enjoy the old original photos of tractors and equipment.  Thanks Bill P




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When you take the Amtrak from Milwaukee to Chicago you go past a Case IH rail siding near Racine. There's a small yard of tractors, and railcars on the spur ready to be loaded.
 
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Yes that is how they came in WWII.  With every tractor there came a light wood box with the cleats, guide bands, and bolts nuts and lock washers to attach.   My job, since it was WWII and most men had gone to war, was to attach the lugs and guide bands.  Pop would come around later and tighten them up.  Coke, it was not till late in our dealership life - we closed in 1962 - that the tractors started coming on trucks.  Up till then they, combines and implementswere always delivered on flat or box cars.
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Bill P,  Could you e-mail me a copy of that picture.  For some reason I could no copy it.
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Very neat picture.
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It sure does look like those wheels are PO1. And the seats are light colored. And they have electric starters.


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Here is my little '39 B on full steel.  The ones in the pic look to be around early 40's models.  Mine does not have the tall air cleaner or the thicker hubs, but it does have the widened fenders.
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Here's my 44 C.
 


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Would think the tall aircleaner sucked in quite a bit of exhaust?
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Did the steel wheeled B's have thicker hubs with the 4 cut-outs like the C's? 
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yes they had a heavier rear hub with 4 notches in them.
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I have see rail cars of combines leaving Grand Island, NE but have never seen a tractor on anything but a truck.
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 The only steel wheels I use are when I threw a tire.
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My series 3 190XT was delivered to Alcester SD by rail. Dad told me in Sioux City Ia he seen several rail cars with G's on them. They were on end with front up in air packed so tight they were touching each other.
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According to the pic an this B manual (currently on eBay), not all of the steel wheeled B's that shipped from West Allis had the 4 notch rear wheel center.
 
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Great pictures. I hope by the end of winter my offiice looks like your pictures. i have bought up some AC8070's 1/64 to put on some depression cars. I plan on having my S guage American Flyer train engines pull them around the room.  
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That pic from Ebay shows surely shows one of the very first tractors with steel on them.  Inside that manual shows the thicker hubs.  Don't think Allis would have made too many without the thicker hubs since you can't get all the tread widths without them (unless you dismount the hubs from the axle, then re assemble), but it was WWII.

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