Train flat car loaded with Steel wheel B's & C's
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Topic: Train flat car loaded with Steel wheel B's & C's
Posted By: BILLP-SE-MI
Subject: Train flat car loaded with Steel wheel B's & C's
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:10pm
Here is a picture out of one of my books. Nothing like a train car full Steel wheel tractors getting ready to leave the factory.
Have a good one Bill P
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Posted By: Blake_AllisMan
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:13pm
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Very cool picture! I love seeing pictures of the B's and C's on steel wheels!! ------------- 1941 C 1952 IB 1947 C 1955 WD45 SFW 1956 WD45 Diesel 1977 5020 4WD Serial Number 1 |
Posted By: BILLP-SE-MI
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:14pm
| This picture is for you Bill Long. I bet you saw them like this, arive with no lugs or guide bans on the wheels. Have a good one BILL P |
Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:14pm
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Was it only the B's that had the flat topped fenders for steel wheels? ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: BILLP-SE-MI
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:17pm
| Yup because the C's had a wider rear wheel stance. BILL P |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:23pm
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Two things about it , multi tractor shipment by rail and steel wheels on tractors.
Seems lot of tractors are now on truck shipments but do see a few on train cars yet. ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Breeze
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:41pm
| I like them oldies too. Thanks Bill Keep em coming. |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:51pm
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I really enjoy the old original photos of tractors and equipment. Thanks Bill P ------------- |
Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:58pm
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When you take the Amtrak from Milwaukee to Chicago you go past a Case IH rail siding near Racine. There's a small yard of tractors, and railcars on the spur ready to be loaded.
Great pic! ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:59pm
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Yes that is how they came in WWII. With every tractor there came a light wood box with the cleats, guide bands, and bolts nuts and lock washers to attach. My job, since it was WWII and most men had gone to war, was to attach the lugs and guide bands. Pop would come around later and tighten them up. Coke, it was not till late in our dealership life - we closed in 1962 - that the tractors started coming on trucks. Up till then they, combines and implementswere always delivered on flat or box cars.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
Bill P, Could you e-mail me a copy of that picture. For some reason I could no copy it.
mailto:awol1407@verizon.net - awol1407@verizon.net - thanks
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Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 7:34pm
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Very neat picture. ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: Brad MI
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 7:44pm
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It sure does look like those wheels are PO1. And the seats are light colored. And they have electric starters. |
Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 7:46pm
Here is my little '39 B on full steel. The ones in the pic look to be around early 40's models. Mine does not have the tall air cleaner or the thicker hubs, but it does have the widened fenders. ------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: BILLP-SE-MI
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 8:10pm
Here's my 44 C.
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Posted By: Bee
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 7:21am
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Would think the tall aircleaner sucked in quite a bit of exhaust?
------------- Bob, North Carolina 1949 B |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 10:50am
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Did the steel wheeled B's have thicker hubs with the 4 cut-outs like the C's? ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 11:12am
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yes they had a heavier rear hub with 4 notches in them. ------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: Chris (swIA)
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 11:15am
| I have see rail cars of combines leaving Grand Island, NE but have never seen a tractor on anything but a truck. |
Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 5:26pm
 ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: bikley
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 5:31pm
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The only steel wheels I use are when I threw a tire. Nice pictures |
Posted By: D-allis Iowa
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 5:37pm
| My series 3 190XT was delivered to Alcester SD by rail. Dad told me in Sioux City Ia he seen several rail cars with G's on them. They were on end with front up in air packed so tight they were touching each other. |
Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 8:08pm
According to the pic an this B manual (currently on eBay), not all of the steel wheeled B's that shipped from West Allis had the 4 notch rear wheel center.
 ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 10:10pm
| Great pictures. I hope by the end of winter my offiice looks like your pictures. i have bought up some AC8070's 1/64 to put on some depression cars. I plan on having my S guage American Flyer train engines pull them around the room. |
Posted By: GreenOrange
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2010 at 4:52pm
| That pic from Ebay shows surely shows one of the very first tractors with steel on them. Inside that manual shows the thicker hubs. Don't think Allis would have made too many without the thicker hubs since you can't get all the tread widths without them (unless you dismount the hubs from the axle, then re assemble), but it was WWII. |