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BILLP-SE-MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: SE Michigan Points: 682 |
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Here is a picture out of one of my books. Nothing like a train car full Steel wheel tractors getting ready to leave the factory.
Have a good one Bill P
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Blake_AllisMan ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Location: Plainfield,IA Points: 413 |
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Very cool picture! I love seeing pictures of the B's and C's on steel wheels!!
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BILLP-SE-MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: SE Michigan Points: 682 |
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This picture is for you Bill Long. I bet you saw them like this, arive with no lugs or guide bans on the wheels.
Have a good one BILL P
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GBACBFan ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Green Bay WI Points: 2662 |
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Was it only the B's that had the flat topped fenders for steel wheels?
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BILLP-SE-MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: SE Michigan Points: 682 |
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Yup because the C's had a wider rear wheel stance. BILL P
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Coke-in-MN ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41770 |
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Two things about it , multi tractor shipment by rail and steel wheels on tractors.
Seems lot of tractors are now on truck shipments but do see a few on train cars yet.
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Breeze ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ga Points: 8931 |
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I like them oldies too. Thanks Bill Keep em coming.
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JoeO(CMO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Cent Missouri Points: 2694 |
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I really enjoy the old original photos of tractors and equipment. Thanks Bill P
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GBACBFan ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Green Bay WI Points: 2662 |
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When you take the Amtrak from Milwaukee to Chicago you go past a Case IH rail siding near Racine. There's a small yard of tractors, and railcars on the spur ready to be loaded.
Great pic! Edited by GBACBFan - 01 Dec 2010 at 6:59pm |
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Bill Long ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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Yes that is how they came in WWII. With every tractor there came a light wood box with the cleats, guide bands, and bolts nuts and lock washers to attach. My job, since it was WWII and most men had gone to war, was to attach the lugs and guide bands. Pop would come around later and tighten them up. Coke, it was not till late in our dealership life - we closed in 1962 - that the tractors started coming on trucks. Up till then they, combines and implementswere always delivered on flat or box cars.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
Bill P, Could you e-mail me a copy of that picture. For some reason I could no copy it.
awol1407@verizon.net - thanks
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David Gibson (OH) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: Hollansburg, OH Points: 493 |
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Very neat picture.
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Brad MI ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arcadia MI Points: 339 |
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It sure does look like those wheels are PO1. And the seats are light colored. And they have electric starters.
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HagerAC ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Location: SE MN Points: 1189 |
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Here is my little '39 B on full steel. The ones in the pic look to be around early 40's models. Mine does not have the tall air cleaner or the thicker hubs, but it does have the widened fenders.
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BILLP-SE-MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: SE Michigan Points: 682 |
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Here's my 44 C.
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Bee ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 14 Jun 2010 Location: NC Points: 201 |
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Would think the tall aircleaner sucked in quite a bit of exhaust?
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Bob, North Carolina
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Eldon (WA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765 |
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Did the steel wheeled B's have thicker hubs with the 4 cut-outs like the C's?
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HagerAC ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Location: SE MN Points: 1189 |
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yes they had a heavier rear hub with 4 notches in them.
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30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52
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Chris (swIA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Prescott, IA Points: 319 |
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I have see rail cars of combines leaving Grand Island, NE but have never seen a tractor on anything but a truck.
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GBACBFan ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Green Bay WI Points: 2662 |
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bikley ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Maryland Points: 5405 |
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The only steel wheels I use are when I threw a tire.
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D-allis Iowa ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Oct 2009 Location: Akron, Iowa Points: 494 |
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My series 3 190XT was delivered to Alcester SD by rail. Dad told me in Sioux City Ia he seen several rail cars with G's on them. They were on end with front up in air packed so tight they were touching each other.
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GBACBFan ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Green Bay WI Points: 2662 |
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According to the pic an this B manual (currently on eBay), not all of the steel wheeled B's that shipped from West Allis had the 4 notch rear wheel center.
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Unit3 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5559 |
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Great pictures. I hope by the end of winter my offiice looks like your pictures. i have bought up some AC8070's 1/64 to put on some depression cars. I plan on having my S guage American Flyer train engines pull them around the room.
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GreenOrange ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Wisconsin Points: 832 |
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That pic from Ebay shows surely shows one of the very first tractors with steel on them. Inside that manual shows the thicker hubs. Don't think Allis would have made too many without the thicker hubs since you can't get all the tread widths without them (unless you dismount the hubs from the axle, then re assemble), but it was WWII.
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