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R.W 
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 10:29am |
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What are your oppionions on farmall/international offset tractors(cub, super a, 100, 130, 140)?
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 10:38am |
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If it's Red, leave it in the shed. LOL
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Denis in MI
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 11:58am |
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Cubs are a glorified lawn mower they are about the same size as a allis B and can do less than half the work. A,B, and BN are little better and about the same as a allis B or C
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 12:04pm |
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Believe most of these do not have water pumps.Depend on gravity to cool engine.easy to over work and overheat
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 12:18pm |
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Depends on what you want them for. A lot of them were sold. As far as the thermo cooling system, I did a lot of cultivating with a C in the 50's that had such a system. There were never any cooling issues. Of course, it was pretty new then.
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Claus
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 4:07pm |
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Even the Cub Lowboys of the 1970's had the same motor with no water pump, also were lacking on power. Only 17 or 18hp.
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Bill Long
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 4:34pm |
RW, The Cub is comprable to the G in power not the B. The Super A and the others you mentioned are in the category with the B-C and CA. As said above it depends on what you want them for. Light work, cultivating, lawn mowing, fine. They all have excellent hyds. They have been around for years and have an excellent reputation. Just be careful if you have hilly land.
In Maryland the offset IH tractors were used in tobacco cultivation i southern MD.
Remember, the G and a number of two cyl John Deeres have a thermo sypon system with no water pump. They worked fine.
Don't forget to check for implements that come with them or are available for your use.
Hope this is some help.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
ps: I still think my favorate - the AC B - is the very best. Cub won't pull the "hat off your head". We always did very well against the A and later models.
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Hartland Farm
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 4:50pm |
The B AC, G AC, C AC (for two row), and the sidewinder Internationals (140 ect.) are the best cultivating tractors ever made. Being in tobacco country you see a lot of 140's still at work around here but not so much the ACs. I've been many a mile on a B in a tobacco patch. The International are better for seeing the row (except the G) but I never liked making a right turn on a left handed hill. As far at the Cubs and more so the Cub Lowboys they are not much of a tractor but they are cute at heck and the kids like to drive mine. Joe (TN)
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Denis in MI
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 5:12pm |
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I have a regular height cub that looks like that one and all I use it for is garden work
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Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 10:17pm |
I have an excellent 2 owner 1961 Farmall 140 for sale if anyone is interested. Has brand new tires on the rear along with many attachments. Has not been used in 4 years - taking up space in the barn. Need to make room for more orange!
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Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 9:35am |
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A few post back you may have read where we cultivated 50 acres with a cub one year. Cub and AC-G had close to same cu in engine . The farmall A Super A ,140 and so on had a thick rear wheel on right side so were not of balanced as might apear . Lift system was great .Constance lift pluse down presure.Uncle had Super A and he pulled 2-12 oliver trailor plow with it .I am a A C person but i know more than one case where farmall was bought over AC mostly because of lift.
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rickwsomd
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Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 12:41pm |
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I grew up on Farmalls/Internationals. As Bill stated, here in Southern Maryland, there were tons of them sold for tobacco farming. I started out cultivating with a Farmall B with handlift cultivators on it. Also had a Super A, two Cubs and a 140. Still have the B, 140 and Yellow cub. They were great cultivating tractors. We never had any trouble with them and the hydraulics were nice. Cubs and B had thermo syphon cooling system and never had an ounce of trouble with them, even in the middle of the summer. As wfmurray states as well, the offsets had a heavy cast rear wheel on the right side and pressed steel on the left. They were pretty stable, but you had to use some sense when driving them as far as hill sides go. We has some a fairly hilly fields, but never had a problem. Take Care, Rick W.
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Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 1:07pm |
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I put a clutch and throwout bushing in a red cub it was fairly easy. The little motor was a smooth sewing maching. Fun to drive if you didn't have to get on and off all the time the guy had a middle blade on it. He said the same blade will go on front or middle and had a mounted single bottom plow for the back. The carbon fiber throwout bushing at $80 was not there better Idea and I found out later they have a bearing available now. I don't know why they didn't tell me at the IH dealer.
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Reeseholler
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Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 1:49pm |
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Can't help you out with the smaller ones. My friend has an A but other than that, nobody around here really has small ones that I know of. I drove my friends A once and couldn't get onto both sets of pedals being on the same side. Think I'm going to turn him down next time lol
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Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 7:17am |
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I own a 65 Cub Lo-Boy. It isnt much of a tractor, but then again it wasnt designed to be much of a tractor. Not the easiest tractor to get on/off, but easy to haul. It is said that a Cub is 2/3 of an A. The C60 engine is smooth, a good runner. Nice to haul the wagon around in the spring while raking the lawn. I know they technically are less HP then your average lawnmower today, but my cub will out-pull my dad's new JD 26HP rider. Less HP, but more weight and better traction
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Adam Stratton
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Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 7:46am |
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I had an A Farmall for a long time and it was a really nice little tractor to run an auger with. It was offset, which would have been bad for a bush-hog or mower, but got the tractor out of the trucks way. Like the others have said, it was a smooth running tractor and barely used any fuel.
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John WV
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Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 11:37am |
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I have a super a and love it . Dad brought it new in 1951 and does all my cultivating with it Now that I plant 1,000 lbs. of potatos every year it does everything I need to do for them.
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Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 3:09pm |
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I used to mow 2 acres with a Farmall A. Then I stepped up to the Allis CA. The A was OK but the 60" mower was more than enough for it.
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