3500A AC engine gov. surplus auction

Saw this while looking for aircraft parts and thought some one might need/want it.

http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=3845187

Is it a 426? It's closer to you Darrel then it is to me.

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According to Google Earth, it's about a mile north of Rickenbacker Airport/AFB, South of I71/270 south.

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167 brake hp = how many pto hp? 85%? That's 142 and that's at 1800.

Dans7080, where is home?

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Its at Rickenbacker, on the auction there is a place to click for a map but from 270 get off at Alum Creek Drive and go south, you cant miss Rick. Anyone besides me notice the entire injection pump plus drive is missing?

A little info on those engines

Whats happening in the military (besides them being old and obsoleted) is that any diesel engines that use the rotory pumps are giving them fits. This is because they are using JP4 or whatever for fuel that has absolutely zero lubricating properties. They were locking up injection pumps faster then they could buy them. You will notice at any auction that they are also full of Hercules and GM diesels with rotory pumps. You can read all about it by searching the subject on Google. Those 3500s are not ordinary fare. It is an interesting engine with internal features different than most. David Ferguson can quote the specs if anyone is interested in them but basicaly the Military did not want mark II engines for replacements for the 3500s already in service so A-C built them a "3500" long after nobody else could buy one,I have seen blocks with 85 dates. David told me that he last shippments out of Harvey were those 3500s for the military. They have fully counterweighted cranks, 1 3/4 wrsit pins and some additonal meat here and there in the block. I am really not an expert but a person who knows says they would be like a 7080 engine with no intercooler and a 220 fuel system. The dyno tag with mine said 150 some ponies at 1800 RPM. The pump shop added 15% to the delivery when they changed the governor (must be done) and it's STRONG in the tractor, thats all I know.

Edited by Butch(OH) - 09 Dec 2010 at 11:32am

Wow $2700.00 plus 10%. Mine was $1800.00 fresh rebuild and new injection pump, guess I shoulda bought two? LOL

Edited by Butch(OH) - 09 Dec 2010 at 4:38pm

John, they were 426ci engines.

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Doug(TN) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville TN Points: 21	Post Options Post Reply Quote Doug(TN) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 3500A AC engine gov. surplus auction Posted: 08 Dec 2010 at 12:22pm
	Saw this while looking for aircraft parts and thought some one might need/want it. http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=3845187

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darrel in ND Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8633	Post Options Post Reply Quote darrel in ND Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2010 at 9:25pm
	wouldn't mind puttin in a bid on that, but it appears to be in Ohio, and that's a ways away from me. Darrel

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	Is it a 426? It's closer to you Darrel then it is to me.
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	Im in OH but its not comming up on the map. If i can help ya out send me a PM

JohnCO Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992	Post Options Post Reply Quote JohnCO Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2010 at 11:49pm
	According to Google Earth, it's about a mile north of Rickenbacker Airport/AFB, South of I71/270 south.
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Dans 7080 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Points: 1146	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dans 7080 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2010 at 11:53pm
	Thanks John, It didnt show up on the map. I can be there in about an hour and a half.

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	167 brake hp = how many pto hp? 85%? That's 142 and that's at 1800.

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	Looks like a core to me. Has the F7 condition also.

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	Dans7080, where is home?
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	Oxford, about 35-40 minutes north west of cincinnatti.

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	Its at Rickenbacker, on the auction there is a place to click for a map but from 270 get off at Alum Creek Drive and go south, you cant miss Rick. Anyone besides me notice the entire injection pump plus drive is missing? A little info on those engines Whats happening in the military (besides them being old and obsoleted) is that any diesel engines that use the rotory pumps are giving them fits. This is because they are using JP4 or whatever for fuel that has absolutely zero lubricating properties. They were locking up injection pumps faster then they could buy them. You will notice at any auction that they are also full of Hercules and GM diesels with rotory pumps. You can read all about it by searching the subject on Google. Those 3500s are not ordinary fare. It is an interesting engine with internal features different than most. David Ferguson can quote the specs if anyone is interested in them but basicaly the Military did not want mark II engines for replacements for the 3500s already in service so A-C built them a "3500" long after nobody else could buy one,I have seen blocks with 85 dates. David told me that he last shippments out of Harvey were those 3500s for the military. They have fully counterweighted cranks, 1 3/4 wrsit pins and some additonal meat here and there in the block. I am really not an expert but a person who knows says they would be like a 7080 engine with no intercooler and a 220 fuel system. The dyno tag with mine said 150 some ponies at 1800 RPM. The pump shop added 15% to the delivery when they changed the governor (must be done) and it's STRONG in the tractor, thats all I know. Edited by Butch(OH) - 09 Dec 2010 at 11:32am

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	We have 2 of these engines, one is in a 210 and the other is in a 220.
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Butch(OH) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lucerne Ohio Points: 3834	Post Options Post Reply Quote Butch(OH) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 4:37pm
	Wow $2700.00 plus 10%. Mine was $1800.00 fresh rebuild and new injection pump, guess I shoulda bought two? LOL Edited by Butch(OH) - 09 Dec 2010 at 4:38pm

JohnCO Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992	Post Options Post Reply Quote JohnCO Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2010 at 12:56am
	I guess a couple people wanted them. What is the displacement?
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Dans 7080 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Points: 1146	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dans 7080 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2010 at 1:12am
	John, they were 426ci engines.

john(MI) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9262	Post Options Post Reply Quote john(MI) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2010 at 6:20am
	That is not a government surplus auction. It would end in .gov if it were. Those kinds of folks buy up stuff from sites like gsaauctions.gov and then resell them at quite a mark up. If you want to cut them out, start perusing gsaauctions.
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