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acwdwcman 
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:34pm |
is it rare to have a hand clutch on an unstylled wc..
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countryguy828
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:35pm |
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I friend of mine has one, the only one I have seen with my own eyes though.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:38pm |
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got to find one first
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:39pm |
the guy i bought my tractor off of said that it was an option and not many of them were on tractors.. but i know it is not just a add on from another company cuz it says allis chalmers on it and it has a part # to
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:46pm |
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I'd like to see pics :)
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acwdwcman
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:47pm |
ill try to get some it might take a while i got a basketball game tomarrow.
and its to late tonight
plus got to get it out of the shed
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:51pm |
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Are you talking about a hand clutch instead of the foot clutch pedal or the afermarket hand clutch (extra clutch) built by Sudenga Industries in George Iowa to get live PTO on WC's and WF's ?
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:58pm |
extra clutch
not for live pto at lest i dont think so
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 8:01pm |
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The "extra clutch" was in place of the power lift and was installed to get live PTO for Roto Balers. I have one and have seen many more but they are not real common.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 8:20pm |
it probably is cuz i dont have the lift on it
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 8:21pm |
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I'd like to see some pics also.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 8:35pm |
This is not my tractor but is the "Extra clutch" 
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 9:08pm |
That is the additonal clutch to give WC tractors live power. We have one of these, but is not installed on any of our tractors at the time. It came on our '37 WC with a factory wide front.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 9:09pm |
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Is it a true clutch? A couple of mine have the disengage lever but you have to use the real clutch to re-engage.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 9:43pm |
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That was an after market dry clutch (real clutch). TSC sold them in the early 50's. There was also a run in oil clutch that looked similar to a Sherman overdrive. Dave Ferguson and I took the top cover off one at Hutchinson about 10 years ago, to see what it was like inside. It had the overdrive in conjunction with the wet clutch. Only one of those I've ever seen.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 11:15am |
You know, I have never seen that arrangement on a WC. Thanks for posting.
Good Luck!
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Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 12:06pm |
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That would be night and day difference in the usefullness of my WC. I'd love to find one myself. It looks like a pretty big clutch should be tuff but I wonder how it would do being slipped all day like when you need to go slow through a big windrow.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 4:00pm |
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The clutch itself is a 'Twin Disc'. One should not be that hard to find. The first one that I saw was at a dealer's lot in '93 and then I saw another one at another dealer's lot the same day. Told my uncle about it when I got home. It was old news to him. He installed one in 1951. I've seen about 10 over the years. If you go to the Sudenga website, they mention the 'Extra Clutch' as one of their early inovative products.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 4:28pm |
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ACWDWCMAN says ot has the Allis-Chalmers name on it. Did Allis ever make one themselves?
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Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 5:50pm |
Hi I have one just like the picture Calvin Schmidt posted. Like every thing I have it is fo sale. 785-353-2392 Thanks
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Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 9:50pm |
well calvin mine doesnt look like that at all mine is connected to the foot clutch
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Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 10:18pm |
That explains a lot!
Would like to see pictures.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2010 at 3:44pm |
im trying to get some pics now
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Posted: 16 Nov 2010 at 4:20pm |
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So it is just a handle that operates the foot clutch ? I Don't see the benefit ?
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Posted: 16 Nov 2010 at 4:38pm |
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You would see the benefit if your left leg didn't work or wasn't there.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2010 at 9:25pm |
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or if you r in a parade and your legg gets tired and worn out
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Posted: 19 Nov 2010 at 2:47pm |
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i will get pics when i get home from school
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Posted: 19 Nov 2010 at 4:37pm |
  this is my hand clutch
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Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 9:47pm |
This is the sherman hand clutch/underdrive set up we have on a WC.
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Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 6:44am |
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Chad. Is that an oil clutch that gives the WC live PTO ?
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