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D 21 Versus D21 Industrial

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    Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 7:27am
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Front axle a fixed width. Different type of drawbar. Can't imagine a PTO or 3 point hitch being offered either.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Unit3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 10:45am
1 showed up at Hutchinson last year that didn’t even have a hydraulic pump. Just a small one for power steering and no hydraulics out the back.
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Remote hydraulics could very well have been an "option". Not needed when pulling a large roller or sheep-foot packer.
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Originally posted by Unit3 Unit3 wrote:

1 showed up at Hutchinson last year that didn’t even have a hydraulic pump. Just a small one for power steering and no hydraulics out the back.


One was like that at Rantoul. Had to take a double look
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The D21 did not have a fixed front axle width like the other D series industrials. Ours was at Hutch and at Rantoul. It only has a pump for power steering. The main difference is the rear hitch. Nothing in the serial number.

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Is this the heavy style hitch? This was from back in Lathrop GOTO


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And then, that one has a PTO...go figure. 
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I bet those got the snot pulled out of them! 
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Has hydraulic remotes also.
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And according to my D21 Industrial literature sheet a three point hitch with either category 3 or 2 sway blocks was optional equipment.  Sorry Doc, you're still the best though.  
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It looks like you could "spec" the D-21 Industrial tractor just like a farm tractor, only yellow paint was standard !! Who would need a PTO on an industrial tractor ?? or an adjustable front axle ??
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Concerning the pto, I know Hancock built some pto driven elevating scrapers. My farmer friend had one, he pulled his with a 1466. 

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Back in the day, would there have been PTO powered air compressors or generators? Add a 540 adapter and a generator would run a long time.
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I have both the ag and industrial D21 price lists. Really no difference. All options are the same. There are a few orange industrials. No mention of the heavy hitch in my price book.  
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