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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2721 |
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About a year ago I found my D 15 has a bent rear axle shaft and a chipped bull gear tooth . I now have a good donor that I plan to put new seals , etc in and then swap the final drive out . I'm sure to have questions along the way . Thanks in advance !
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22264 |
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While a strong strap sling will support it, I made a steel one, bolts to the FD. Made it easier to get the right height and 'angles' to slide it back in.... I have an overhead beam, trolleys and chain hoists...make the job pleasant.... I will take pictures IF I can find the silly 'jig'...... Jay
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Fred in Pa
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Hanover Pa. Points: 9190 |
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And new brakes
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2721 |
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Thanks Jay and Fred . I did the brakes when I pulled the final drive last year . Have the donor bull gear and bearings out now . Next up is the pinion shaft . So far , so good .
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john(MI)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9263 |
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I'm sure you are knowledgeable of this but, you should only do one side at a time. Put it all back together and then the other side.
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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2721 |
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Yeah thanks John . I'm just doing the left side .
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2721 |
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Having a hard time getting the lock ring off the pinion shaft that's behind the brake drum . Anyone have any advice ? Thanks !
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MACK
Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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Cut it off with cut off grinder wheel. Then use new snap ring. MACK
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2721 |
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Thanks Mack ! Didn't think about that .
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ACinSC
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Seems kinda expensive to me . Agco lists that lock ring for $22 . Still don't have mine off but haven't cut it yet . Thanks
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22264 |
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been looking at the drawings, the snapring seems like an 'infernal' one.... maybe 2 slotted screwdrivers, to pry it up ,once you get it started, 'tease' it out of the slot ? Never had mine that far apart..... it looks easier than doing my taxes though..... 4 hrs labour AND I had to pay.....
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Gary
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5322 |
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Jay Those 'F n T' keys do look similar, don't they ! F..N thing. G |
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2721 |
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I actually have my favorite son's lock ring pliers . Haven't done the trick yet , but I'll keep trying .
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 80211 |
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ALLIS did not make snap rings ... they bought them as hardware.. Do the same.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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ACinSC
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Yeah Steve . Plan to ask Brenda if they have a generic lock ring when I order the bearings and seals . Thanks
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steve(ill)
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ALLIS will charge 5 x as much as you can get one at the hardware store.
ALLIS did not make bearings or seals either.. Edited by steve(ill) - 21 Apr 2021 at 5:14pm |
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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ACinSC
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Have wondered if Napa could match bearings and seals if I have a number ? Thanks
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WeisAC2
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ACinSC
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My favorite son posted a picture for me . Hard to believe that something this size could be bent . This is the good one . Thanks
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22264 |
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Here's the 'final drive lifting plate' in action ! Simple really, flat plate of steel with 6 holes, 2" sq tubing about a foot long, with 2 'eyes' welded to it. With 2 chain hoists I can get it 'aligned' very well to slide back on. chain hoists are on trolleys on an overhead 8" Ibeam. yellow tubing are '1x2 spacers'. It's a lot safer than the single sling,easy 1 man operation. Jay
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ACinSC
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That's a nice setup Jay . I'll just use the wide strap I have . I'm still redoing the donor final drive and a long way from installing it . Thanks for sharing !
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ACinSC
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Finally got the lock ring off . Came off easy after I cut it , like Mack suggested . Now to remove these 2 bearings and the seal . Thanks !
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22818 |
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Google Motion Industries store locator. Take your old bearings and seals with and they will match them up. The best 'bang for your buck' in my opinion. |
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ACinSC
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Thanks , Charles . May check them out if I can ever get this last bearing off .
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jaybmiller
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FYI the seals on the diff case where the axle goes in are National #471765. You can put TWO of them in place of the 'wider' OEM ones. This should prevent oil from getting onto the brake shoes.... Sad thing is I have 2 sitting here in front on me....
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Eric B
Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Location: British Columbi Points: 922 |
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The seals Jay mention can also be had as SKF 12458. I only used one per side and had no leaks... been several years now.
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Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!
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jaybmiller
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I tossed (er, carefully installed...) two in per side on the theory they'd be on 'new' part of the shafting, 2 is better than 1 and ,well, only $4 a piece and I 'hopefully' won't ever have 'wet' brakes again.........
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ACinSC
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Thanks Jay and Eric . Think I bought a extra seal last time . Now if I can only find it .
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jaybmiller
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2nd drawer down on the left... er. no, 3rd drawer, hmm maybe 3rd on the right no wait, it's on the btm of the right upper cabinet,yeah, a um... dang ! 'someone' removed that cabinet to make room for 'stuff' from next door. sigh...... NOW I know WHY those seals are in front of me !!!
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
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ACinSC
Orange Level Joined: 16 Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Points: 2721 |
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Maybe we're on a different page ? My old seal is National 50055 L 60 . Gonna check the Agco site and see what they list . THANKS !
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