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Alex09(WI) 
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 Topic: 185/180/D19 Nelson Mufflers for sale
Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 3:06pm |
The 180/185 Nelson mufflers are finally available! These are serviceable for the D19 Gas tractors also, as we will not be offering a separate muffler for the D19 gas tractors. Price is $197 each for these mufflers, A-C #248883 Those interested can contact me at 920-598-1287 Thank you
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allisbred
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Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 3:11pm |
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What is different with the 175 diesel muffler? What are the intake & exhaust diameters? Thank you, Kevin
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Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 4:34pm |
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Alex, just out of curiosity,what was the difference between the d19 and the 180/185 muffler?Also will you be offering the 170/175 gas muffler?
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Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 5:19pm |
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What is different with the 175 diesel muffler? What are the intake & exhaust diameters? Thank you, Kevin |
From what I can tell, the 170/175 diesel mufflers had a centered outlet and smaller outlet dia. Inlet pipe is same, so is oval body.
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Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 5:25pm |
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Alex, just out of curiosity,what was the difference between the d19 and the 180/185 muffler?Also will you be offering the 170/175 gas muffler? |
D19 muffler 246130 had a shorter outlet pipe than the 185 muffler and also had a slightly smaller diameter. I will have the 170 gas muffler available, but might have to wait till some of these sell before I order more lol
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Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 6:49pm |
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Somewhere along the line our local AC dealer got the part numbers mixed up on these mufflers. I few years ago I ordered (2) for the 185 and the new one had a small pipe in the top and the new old stock they had was the correct size but the pipe was in the center? So I also ordered (1) for the 175 D and it came correct from what I remembered being for the 185. So I bought (3) of those although they are Stanley’s. I’m still not sure the top pipe was correct at 2 1/4” for the 185’s? Some reason I thought they were 2 3/8”?
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Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 6:53pm |
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Somewhere along the line our local AC dealer got the part numbers mixed up on these mufflers. I few years ago I ordered (2) for the 185 and the new one had a small pipe in the top and the new old stock they had was the correct size but the pipe was in the center? So I also ordered (1) for the 175 D and it came correct from what I remembered being for the 185. So I bought (3) of those although they are Stanley’s. I’m still not sure the top pipe was correct at 2 1/4” for the 185’s? Some reason I thought they were 2 3/8”?
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Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 8:28pm |
allisbred wrote:
What is different with the 175 diesel muffler? What are the intake & exhaust diameters? Thank you, Kevin |
Pretty much everything is different for the 175 muffler. Hoping to get a new Nelson for it one day. That Stanley sounds awful!
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Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 11:14pm |
My 175 gas that I bought in 1977 had a Nelson muffler with an inlet in the center of the oval, and the outlet was offset just like the 185 mufflers Alex has. Dale
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Posted: 10 Sep 2020 at 2:20pm |
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Are they welding these by hand or robot? Welding job doesn't look too great. They can do better. JMHO, Tracy
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Posted: 11 Sep 2020 at 1:00pm |
Tracy Martin TN wrote:
Are they welding these by hand or robot? Welding job doesn't look too great. They can do better. JMHO, Tracy
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I'm sure they are welding the ovals by hand. They might be welding the pipes by robot though. I will pass on your feedback to Nelson.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2020 at 5:45pm |
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Stanley brand mufflers for 180/185 had the outlet centered and it was smaller diameter than the Nelson OEM outlet.
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Posted: 12 Sep 2020 at 4:32pm |
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I should also mention that the diameter of the outlet pipe is 2 3/8" on these Nelson mufflers, which is what the original 180/185 had. It was pointed out to me that the stanley mufflers are 2" on the outlet.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2020 at 8:42am |
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It was very pleasing listening to the 301 as I had remembered with the Nelson. I also think it’s better for the engine as I noticed less back pressure and maybe a little more RPM’s. I posted a picture on another thread with it installed. Thank you Alex for following through, getting these manufactured.
Edited by allisbred - 28 Sep 2020 at 8:43am
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Posted: 28 Sep 2020 at 6:21pm |
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Are the series 4 diesel mufflers still in the works
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Posted: 29 Sep 2020 at 9:01am |
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad to hear they sound great! The bigger outlet pipe i'm sure is an improvement!
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Are the series 4 diesel mufflers still in the works |
Still considering them next year but don't have much interest at this point. Unfortunately it doesn't make sense to order 100 if only 5 sell.
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Posted: 29 Sep 2020 at 9:12pm |
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Understandable, but am still interested if they become available.
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