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Topic: 185/180/D19 Nelson Mufflers for sale
Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Subject: 185/180/D19 Nelson Mufflers for sale
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 3:06pm

The 180/185 Nelson mufflers are finally available! 
These are serviceable for the D19 Gas tractors also, as we will not be offering a separate muffler for the D19 gas tractors. Price is $197 each for these mufflers, A-C #248883
Those interested can contact me at 920-598-1287
Thank you










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Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 3:11pm
What is different with the 175 diesel muffler? What are the intake & exhaust diameters? Thank you, Kevin   


Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 4:34pm
Alex, just out of curiosity,what was the difference between the d19 and the 180/185 muffler?Also will you be offering the 170/175 gas muffler?

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Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by allisbred allisbred wrote:

What is different with the 175 diesel muffler? What are the intake & exhaust diameters? Thank you, Kevin   

From what I can tell, the 170/175 diesel mufflers had a centered outlet and smaller outlet dia. Inlet pipe is same, so is oval body.


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Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by ac45dave ac45dave wrote:

Alex, just out of curiosity,what was the difference between the d19 and the 180/185 muffler?Also will you be offering the 170/175 gas muffler?

D19 muffler 246130 had a shorter outlet pipe than the 185 muffler and also had a slightly smaller diameter. I will have the 170 gas muffler available, but might have to wait till some of these sell before I order more lol


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Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 6:49pm
Somewhere along the line our local AC dealer got the part numbers mixed up on these mufflers. I few years ago I ordered (2) for the 185 and the new one had a small pipe in the top and the new old stock they had was the correct size but the pipe was in the center? So I also ordered (1) for the 175 D and it came correct from what I remembered being for the 185. So I bought (3) of those although they are Stanley’s. I’m still not sure the top pipe was correct at 2 1/4” for the 185’s? Some reason I thought they were 2 3/8”?


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 6:53pm
Somewhere along the line our local AC dealer got the part numbers mixed up on these mufflers. I few years ago I ordered (2) for the 185 and the new one had a small pipe in the top and the new old stock they had was the correct size but the pipe was in the center? So I also ordered (1) for the 175 D and it came correct from what I remembered being for the 185. So I bought (3) of those although they are Stanley’s. I’m still not sure the top pipe was correct at 2 1/4” for the 185’s? Some reason I thought they were 2 3/8”?


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 8:28pm
Originally posted by allisbred allisbred wrote:

What is different with the 175 diesel muffler? What are the intake & exhaust diameters? Thank you, Kevin   


Pretty much everything is different for the 175 muffler.  Hoping to get a new Nelson for it one day.  That Stanley sounds awful!


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Posted By: bauerd44
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 11:14pm
My 175 gas that I bought in 1977 had a Nelson muffler with an inlet in the center of the oval, and the outlet was offset just like the 185 mufflers Alex has.
Dale


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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2020 at 2:20pm
Are they welding these by hand or robot? Welding job doesn't look too great. They can do better. JMHO, Tracy


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Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2020 at 1:00pm
Originally posted by Tracy Martin TN Tracy Martin TN wrote:

Are they welding these by hand or robot? Welding job doesn't look too great. They can do better. JMHO, Tracy

I'm sure they are welding the ovals by hand. They might be welding the pipes by robot though. I will pass on your feedback to Nelson.


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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2020 at 5:45pm
Stanley brand mufflers for 180/185 had the outlet centered and it was smaller diameter than the Nelson OEM outlet.


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2020 at 4:32pm
I should also mention that the diameter of the outlet pipe is 2 3/8" on these Nelson mufflers, which is what the original 180/185 had. It was pointed out to me that the stanley mufflers are 2" on the outlet.


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Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2020 at 8:42am
It was very pleasing listening to the 301 as I had remembered with the Nelson. I also think it’s better for the engine as I noticed less back pressure and maybe a little more RPM’s. I posted a picture on another thread with it installed. Thank you Alex for following through, getting these manufactured.


Posted By: DCAC
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2020 at 6:21pm
Are the series 4 diesel mufflers still in the works


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2020 at 9:01am
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad to hear they sound great! The bigger outlet pipe i'm sure is an improvement!

Originally posted by DCAC DCAC wrote:

Are the series 4 diesel mufflers still in the works

Still considering them next year but don't have much interest at this point. Unfortunately it doesn't make sense to order 100 if only 5 sell.


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Posted By: DCAC
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2020 at 9:12pm
Understandable, but am still interested if they become available.



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