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oldways 
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Posted: 24 Mar 2019 at 9:57pm |
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Got a bad turbo on my 190xt. Says Rayjay Garrett roto master on it.
#1 is it feasible to have it rebuilt or cheaper to buy a new one?
#2 I can get a air research from agco dealer for 500 plus a 50 conversion kit. What's the conversion kit look like and can I purchase that somewhere else? I assume it's new oil lines and fittings.
#3 I've seen some turbos on eBay new for under 400$ anybody ever bought one off of eBay ? Worried about warranty.
#4 any other suggestions on where to buy one ? Thanks in advance.
Edited by oldways - 24 Mar 2019 at 10:02pm
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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oldways
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Posted: 24 Mar 2019 at 10:08pm |
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 24 Mar 2019 at 11:23pm |
I would go with the new unit if it were mine. There's likely some better performing new design in the new unit. I've also had customers either rebuild their own or gotten cheap rebuilds done that didn't live long. How's that old saying go? "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten"
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Charlie175
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Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 5:35am |
I put one on my 190XT Series II last year. I used a A&I TO4B80 The Turbo is actually made in England
I had to make a oil line but it was pretty easy
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'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 6:18am |
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I don't have an answer to your questions but had a turbo replaced by a local independent shop 8 years ago and seemed like the cost of l/m was around $800 but I think some brake work/misc. work was done also. Did you or Charlie have any trouble getting bolts out of the exhaust housing? I have often looked at those bolts as well as the manifold bolts and cringe at the thought of them snapping.
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Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 6:51am |
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Read Tin NH post about his 7000 turbo. That looks like the Rajay.
Edited by injpumpEd - 25 Mar 2019 at 6:52am
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Charlie175
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Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 8:02am |
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I put on a new housing / elbow as mine was falling apart.
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Charlie
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tbran
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Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 10:56am |
I have mentioned this before, the 7020 or late 649I on the M3 works equally well. I have them on 301's at the farm. Adds about 2# of boost - clears up the smoke - more boost at mid range 1600 - 1900 Rpm... Same turbo but has .58 A/R exhaust instead of the .69 on the 190 -200 's. Just FYI - edit - I re read the post - of course the fittings are different as is the cross over discharge tube between the Rayjay and the AirResearch .
Edited by tbran - 25 Mar 2019 at 11:14am
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When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
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Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 11:02am |
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And costs about half again more.
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Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 11:31am |
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yeah, as in new turbo's - I always try to keep one off blown / salvage engines... in fact we are looking for one now.
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Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 12:06pm |
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I have a RayJay off a 301 combine engine. rebuilt by Schied Desiel. Only has about 100 hours on it. Model 301 E76 Ser # 0020766 Part # 4035497. If that does you any good. $250.00.
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Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 5:02pm |
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GroundHog55 That's tempting. I'll have to think about it. Thanks.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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