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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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Ok at the risk of asking a question with no good answer what grease do you use on your pto joints?
I have always use the old red tacky grease everywhere but I have been wondering if there is something better for my driveline. My JD 930 mower conditioner has wiped out a few joints I found out the slip clutch was not slipping and fixed that but I did notice the crosses get hotter then I would like to see. So I just figured I would ask if I should try a different grease. |
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wekracer ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Location: Tebbetts, MO Points: 1590 |
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Where can I buy popcorn and a coke.
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darrel in ND ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8720 |
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I use cenex grease. It's moly, can't remember exact terminology for it. Certainly not going to proclaim it to be the best. It's what's readily available for me without driving an hour. Darrel
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8642 |
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Been using FS blue for many yrs. Last semi had million on kingpins and still tight.Replaced front three u-joints @million just because and only slight brinnelling of crosses.(It was a turned up 425 Cat and the driveline got punished.) Figured it must be decent grease.
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 88013 |
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Most greases that contain LITHIUM would be a good grease for ball joints or u-joints. Moly greases are more for IMPACT like sockets on a dozer blade, etc... but many do use them for ball joints.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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I use SuperLube on everything, been working well for 20 years.
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Thanks & God Bless
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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what ever grease that don't mix with water/moistier, like Conklin red grease. don't know who else makes that type.
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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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Steve I was thinking the same thing I will pick up some lithium grease. The u joints where just hotter then I would like to see makes me think the old red tacky grease is holding heat and not doing a great job in there.
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DougS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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Google "different types of greases and their uses." You can read it easier than I can explain it. Be aware that their are four different bases for grease. Each suits one application better than others. It's also a good idea to not mix these types.
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24708 |
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I was told to remove ALL the old grease when changing grease type if you do not KNOW what's already in there as some greases don't 'like' each other and can allow water to get in, maybe 'thin out', etc.
Hopefully this isn't an old wive's tale,cause cleaning Ujoints is a wee bit of a PITA.... Also wipe the Zerk fitting BEFORE adding grease! One of them 'common sense' things but it'll keep a grain of sand/dirt/stone from being put INTO the bearings ! Jay |
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Clay ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Udall, Kansas Points: 9899 |
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You were told correctly Jay.
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45 turboa- ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2012 Location: coral city wi Points: 441 |
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I use moly grease . It's black kinda makes a mess if you get it on your hands you can't hardly wash it off I think its good grease ! I think what I have now is lubriplate brand .
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DougS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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Read to your heart's content. Notice that color tells you nothing. The complex greases seem to be the better greases. Lithium +12 seems to be the best thickener, but note that there's a lot more to a grease than the thickener. http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/30818/determine-which-grease |
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tadams(OH) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10918 |
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When you grease the cross do you pump till it come out all four caps or just one ?
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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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I said red tacky because the grease I have always used is Red "N" tacky #2 Lucas grease. Just the name of the grease. It is a lithium grease but I was wondering if maybe it was too tacky for the u joints. |
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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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Yes I pump till I see clean grease comming out all over the place I figure grease is cheap and I don't really care if it makes a mess. |
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DakotaSteve ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 2017 Location: SD Points: 717 |
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Plain and Simply....just my opinion but you just cant beat Amsoil Synthetics! There are ethanol plants around here that have switched to it and cant believe how many less bearings are going out. They buy it by the drum for their automatic greasers. I will say maybe i am bias. I grew up with my dad being a pretty small dealer and i am as well.
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DougS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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Synthetics are especially suited for high temperature applications. I've used AMSOIL, but I didn't like how the base lubricant separated from the thickener while it was in the grease gun. I only used it for greasing my car and I'd question how cost effective it is for an application like that.
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Stan IL&TN ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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Well how the heck do you remove the old grease? I just assumed that you would pump the new stuff in until all the old was forced out?
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DakotaSteve ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 2017 Location: SD Points: 717 |
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Yes through daily greasing you would eventually purge the grease out. The full synthetics do just that. They create less heat....less friction equals less heat.
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DakotaSteve ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 2017 Location: SD Points: 717 |
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This is what id reccomend.
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/grease/dominator-synthetic-racing-grease/ Formulated for high temps. Wont break down at those temps like a petrolium based grease will under like conditions. PM me if i can help more. And trust me....im not putting this info out cuz its a get rich thing over a tube of grease thing...its not that at all! I just really do think its great stuff. ![]() Maybe it could help more folks. Thats what i really like about this site. People humbly helping other people. I havent seen any posts where people tear someone apart like other forums. Pretty great group of people. ![]() |
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tomstractorsandtoys ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 2015 Location: wi Points: 515 |
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I have a silage bagger and that machine always operates under full load and is very hard on pto universals. My Deere dealer had me try some fancy John Deere expensive grease and so far it seems to be working. Just ask your dealer for their most expensive grease they have. Tom
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