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Topic: Good grease to use?
Posted By: Dan73
Subject: Good grease to use?
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2017 at 7:37pm
Ok at the risk of asking a question with no good answer what grease do you use on your pto joints?
I have always use the old red tacky grease everywhere but I have been wondering if there is something better for my driveline. My JD 930 mower conditioner has wiped out a few joints I found out the slip clutch was not slipping and fixed that but I did notice the crosses get hotter then I would like to see. So I just figured I would ask if I should try a different grease.



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Posted By: wekracer
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2017 at 9:06pm
Where can I buy popcorn and a coke.


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2017 at 9:47pm
I use cenex grease. It's moly, can't remember exact terminology for it. Certainly not going to proclaim it to be the best. It's what's readily available for me without driving an hour. Darrel


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2017 at 10:43pm
Been using FS blue for many yrs. Last semi had million on kingpins and still tight.Replaced front three u-joints @million just because and only slight brinnelling of crosses.(It was a turned up 425 Cat and the driveline got punished.) Figured it must be decent grease.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2017 at 10:48pm
Most greases that contain LITHIUM would be a good grease for ball joints or u-joints.  Moly greases are more for IMPACT like sockets on a dozer blade, etc... but many do use them for ball joints.

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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 12:43am
I use SuperLube on everything, been working well for 20 years.

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 1:43am
what ever grease that don't mix with water/moistier, like Conklin red grease. don't know who else makes that type.


Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 5:45am
Steve I was thinking the same thing I will pick up some lithium grease. The u joints where just hotter then I would like to see makes me think the old red tacky grease is holding heat and not doing a great job in there.


Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 5:55am
Google "different types of greases and their uses."  You can read it easier than I can explain it. Be aware that their are four different bases for grease.  Each suits one application better than others. It's also a good idea to not mix these types.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 5:56am
I was told to remove ALL the old grease when changing grease type if you do not KNOW what's already in there as some greases don't 'like' each other and can allow water to get in, maybe 'thin out', etc.
Hopefully this isn't an old wive's tale,cause  cleaning Ujoints is a wee bit of a PITA....

Also wipe the Zerk fitting BEFORE adding grease! One of them 'common sense' things but it'll keep a grain of sand/dirt/stone from being put INTO the bearings !

Jay



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Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 8:23am
You were told correctly Jay.



Posted By: 45 turboa-
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 9:47am
I use moly grease .  It's black kinda makes a mess if you get it on your hands you can't hardly wash it off I think its good grease ! I think what I have now is lubriplate brand .



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Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 12:56pm
Read to your heart's content. Notice that color tells you nothing. The complex greases seem to be the better greases. Lithium +12 seems to be the best thickener, but note that there's a lot more to a grease than the thickener.
 
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Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 1:19pm
When you grease the cross do you pump till it come out all four caps or just one ?



Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by DougS DougS wrote:


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I said red tacky because the grease I have always used is Red "N" tacky #2 Lucas grease. Just the name of the grease. It is a lithium grease but I was wondering if maybe it was too tacky for the u joints.


Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 2:14pm
Originally posted by tadams(OH) tadams(OH) wrote:

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Yes I pump till I see clean grease comming out all over the place I figure grease is cheap and I don't really care if it makes a mess.


Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2017 at 9:28pm
Plain and Simply....just my opinion but you just cant beat Amsoil Synthetics! There are ethanol plants around here that have switched to it and cant believe how many less bearings are going out. They buy it by the drum for their automatic greasers. I will say maybe i am bias. I grew up with my dad being a pretty small dealer and i am as well.


Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2017 at 5:25am
Synthetics are especially suited for high temperature applications. I've used AMSOIL, but I didn't like how the base lubricant separated from the thickener while it was in the grease gun. I only used it for greasing my car and I'd question how cost effective it is for an application like that.


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2017 at 7:20am
Well how the heck do you remove the old grease?  I just assumed that you would pump the new stuff in until all the old was forced out? Confused

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Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2017 at 7:30am
Yes through daily greasing you would eventually purge the grease out. The full synthetics do just that. They create less heat....less friction equals less heat.


Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2017 at 7:39am
This is what id reccomend.
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/grease/dominator-synthetic-racing-grease/

Formulated for high temps. Wont break down at those temps like a petrolium based grease will under like conditions. PM me if i can help more. And trust me....im not putting this info out cuz its a get rich thing over a tube of grease thing...its not that at all! I just really do think its great stuff.

Maybe it could help more folks. Thats what i really like about this site. People humbly helping other people. I havent seen any posts where people tear someone apart like other forums. Pretty great group of people.


Posted By: tomstractorsandtoys
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2017 at 7:43am
I have a silage bagger and that machine always operates under full load and is very hard on pto universals. My Deere dealer had me try some fancy John Deere expensive grease and so far it seems to be working. Just ask your dealer for their most expensive grease they have. Tom



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