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Unstylish
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Poor pank...anything you dont understand, you throw under the bus. Whats so funny is that motor you posted pics or came from *newsflash* someone else. You bought it. You still arent capable of building your own.
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wi50
Orange Level Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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OK, now you come on a public forum and accuse me of doing bad business practices to someone. I posted pictures of a crankshaft, I did not give any information on it........ you are a true POS!
Your lack of knowledge keeps showing. When welding a crank, the welds out over the original forgeing keep building up, of course on the ends they get ground down some during clean up in the welding process. Now it's nice to grind a little less untill the final balanceing is done. It gives the builder something to grind on to balance a crank.
Where the radius and crankpin are it is critical to have good clean welds. So you're lucky I took time to take some pictures, but here's another one of the crankpin...... It's dang nice work. When finish balanced and ground it will look like a true work of art. A good builder will do things in stages in order to keep the most amount of strength in a build. The parts need to get mocked up, taken apart, fit and then finished.
This crank was delivered to me to figure out connectiong rods for I requested it as I'm working on billet rods and want to test fit things for best clearance for another project. I will not say where it came from, or who's it is. It is verry nice work though. Your attempt to slander me pankey is useless.........
Now the critical areas here look great. (oops sorry pankey there's dust on the oil on the main)
I can't help it that someone in Miss bought a bad crank from someone else. The man in question is on these forums under the name of ( insert later)
He calls me and claims he should have never listened to that idiot (insert later) he got a bunch of bad advice, bad work and a wrecked his engine.
I'd hope a moderator takes care of our commando comeing on public forum makeing false accusations of me doing bad business on a project I had absolutly NOTHING to do with untill a guy calls me later complaning about bad service he got from....... Edited by wi50 - 17 Dec 2012 at 9:48am |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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mlpankey
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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He didnt get the crank from me either it came from up your way and the welds look the same if your not doing it you should find someone else to do the cranks . Cause a 6.5 crank is running only on majority of weld and if its full of purosity then its not going to last . |
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Unstylish
Silver Level Joined: 11 Mar 2010 Location: Southwestern Points: 152 |
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Didn't your close friend Kent dakin buy a big crank a while ago?
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mlpankey
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2008 you remember seeing it on yt it was horrible looking .purosity all over it some funky attempt to counterweight it . terrible from the get go. Wished i could find that picture of it looks like it came from wisconsin to me. Both were customised to fit in a dumpster.
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mgburchard
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wi50 i dont think your weld would pass a look test let alone a die penetrate or xray test
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Bob C IL
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Skimmin across this post has more drama than the houswifes of atlanta....
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wi50
Orange Level Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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November 12 2008 on YTmag pulling forum there's a thread about a big crank for sale.
"$ still have stroker stuff for allis 226"
If I were good enough with the computer to post the link for you I would. It's pretty funny reading though. Maybe Ctucker or Butch is handy with their computer???
Ken called me several times in the past (fall of 2011) looking for some parts and advice. Someone on the internet had given him a bunch of bad advice and he had bought a bad crankshaft..........
Interesting what you find on other forums and who had what for sale. Edited by wi50 - 17 Dec 2012 at 5:37pm |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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mlpankey
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Edited by mlpankey - 17 Dec 2012 at 8:11pm |
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Unstylish
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You're busted, Mitch! I should give kent a call...
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mlpankey
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Edited by mlpankey - 17 Dec 2012 at 8:18pm |
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D-17_Dave
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mocksville NC Points: 990 |
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And non of this has anything to do with answering the orriginal post of Panky wanting to offset the crankshaft. Once you get all that worked out Panky you can waste another 6 months forging an offset transmision input shaft.
Still ain't answered my question about flip flopping on the stroke issue.......
Somebody give this whinning child a diaper change and a bottle, it's way past his bedtime and he's trying to interupt an adult conversation.
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Yea, I can fix that.....
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wi50
Orange Level Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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That is a flat out lie pankey. I never sold Ken (or Kent) anything. He called me because he was tired of your bad advice. He took your advice and wrecked his engine.
Absolutely every time I've sold parts to ANYONE weather from forums or not they have the option to return if they don't like it for some reason. Heck I don't even collect money untill people get their things...... I ship them out with an invoice in the box and our good honest members alwayse send a check. It's not a business it's a hobby. In searching the archives and talking to friends it turns out pankey hires everything done. Buys competitive engines and makes them non competitive. Then sells the junk left over. It's really odd that the timeing of his things for sale corespond with the timeing of someone getting bad parts. What's even more odd is that I wasn't on any forums then...... Edited by wi50 - 17 Dec 2012 at 8:30pm |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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mlpankey
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dave i am the one who runs stroke and makes the bottom end run the rpm the induction makes it run so you got confussed on that . Its the wi guys who believe they cant get stroke to turn rpms .Your right though obviously since he has purchased 500 inches for his puller he has figured out stroke will turn rpm cause now he has a purosity filled crank he ckaims is 6.5 inches pictured in a mockup.sorry you got confussed on whos who.
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Carl(NWWI)
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http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=pulling&th=107367
And if I'm correct, pank still thinks that you weld your cranks, but correct me if I'm wrong, you dont, some one else does, atleast that what I got outta your post, but him and his one friend cant seem to understand that? Oh and he also failed to understand the part where you didnt sell this feller a crank, but he didnt pay attention that day in kindergarden and doesnt know how to read...cuz from what I've read, he purchased the crank from someone else, not Wi. Pank, i would still like to know how you can put up such an arguement, but yet you have nothing to show for it, no running tractor, no videos, that any of us have seen anyway. We've all seen Wi50's tractor, seen videos, heck, I've even seen it pull in person, but why is there nothing of yours?? Really seems like you should take less time creating high school drama on here, and more time building your tractor. |
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D-17_Dave
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mocksville NC Points: 990 |
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LOL, that's about the line of babling I exspected. Not one answer to the question I posed. Just rambling on about what you want to talk about.
Now I'll admit I'm no expert on these types of heavy engine mods, but I can read BS as good as any. The way you put together your replies it looks like you need to lay off the moonshine. Your double talk is beginning to confuse yourself. Maybe that's what you've been doing in the shopis running a thump keg pulling engine. That I can see you wanting to keep a secret.
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Yea, I can fix that.....
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mlpankey
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I run stroke for the cubic inches it gives does that answere your question
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wi50
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But at least when he's on the computer Carl he's not wrecking parts. Us real pullers need to scrounge all the good parts we can.
Yeah' I just get cranks done in town. The one in the pic came from out of state from a guy Gary Baker has used.........and does a lot of crank work for pro-stocks. I've got a local guy by Luck makeing the nicest billet rods. Sometime when pankey cools down or gets banned I'll post some information on them. Edited by wi50 - 17 Dec 2012 at 8:45pm |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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mlpankey
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Edited by mlpankey - 17 Dec 2012 at 8:46pm |
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Carl(NWWI)
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Lol. Guess I'm catching on pretty quick, but in the insane assylum it sometimes takes ppl a while to comprehend what they read, which we have pretty good proof of. True though, whens he's on here he's not hurting innoscent bystanders with rod caps, cam lobes, and crank journals when she comes flying apart. Wi doesnt usually have time for all this nonsense too from what i noticed, ppl i know have known him since tech school, he's only gotten smarter since then, has a very successful farming operation, and seems to be building high powered pullers that do very well. pank, you still ignored my response. why waste your time on here if theres no proof??????
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mlpankey
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andy knows what i am talking about he also down deep knows his heckling stopped when he started doing buisness with the hecklers. and never hurt anyone never had any flying parts either.
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wi50
Orange Level Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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So let's get this straight.
Pank has a question on how to get a 7" stroke in the 226 engine and I show and tell how to do make 6.5" fit and show that there's clearance for 7" like he wanted to do by running the rod a certain way with a verry specific cap angle. He crys and posts lies an tries to slander about me. Makes sense to me. Now that he has the necessary information he could order the parts and do it for himself. He could build a puller and show us...... that was his original intentions right? We'll never see it. As for me, I'll see some of you in Gordyville and hopefully Murfreesboro where real people actually pull. Or at least have a few drinks and socialize laughing at people like pank. |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Carl(NWWI)
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Well all we can do is try to help, and whatever happens happens, best thing to do is try to ignore it, even though its hard.
Maybe ill see ya down there. Im going as well |
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D-17_Dave
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Yea, I can fix that.....
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mlpankey
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again I dont know what your talking about .I have always run stroke and always been a activist for stroke . With statements like no replacement for displacement . etc.
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Unstylish
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Pank, Wi has had you at every turn. You were the guru until he showed up out of nowhere. Now you are just stuck acting like the kid who lost a pecker measuring contest. I changed my s/n a few years back on YT because I got sick of people cluttering up my *serious* posts, ie, when my friends wife passed away. NOT BECAUSE of any heckling. I fail to see where you have a grudge against Marty. I met him, he helped me out alot, machines some awsome stuff for me , and has been the BEST person I have ever met to bounce ideas off of. Plus my tractor makes about 30% MORE POWER than previously. Thats dyno proven, too. You have trashed everything he has ever done or said. The entire time, *gasp* you blew up your motor, sold a few $hit cranks, and tried to pass off Tarbills motor as your own work. Now, you have been reduced to outright lying about others actions, and running your mouth about things you obviously have no idea about. The guys who took your advice would like to shoot you, the guy who bought one of your cranks called me up one night a few years ago madder than hell. Im not sure how much you are paying this mgburchard to stick up for you, but its not enough. You have nothing left...
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wi50
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I hate the drama, but I do not like someone trying to bash me. Expecially when pankey claims that I sold a bad crankshaft (an outright lie) to someone who I only talked to and never had any monetary dealings with.
I was looking around YT when I had a few minutes trying to find pictures of the bad crank. They been posted there, I stumbled across this.
Does this crank look like a hack job or what?
This pic is from the YTmag pulling forum. Posted by none other than our commando himself allong with some really cobbled up other junk parts. Some thread about a high school physics and the machinist.....pankey trying to pass this thing as his allong with some hack job of balanceing a front pulley.
I suppose we'll get some lame excuses and probably some trick photography excuses (I left it nice and big didn't I) . If I were handy with the puter I'd post a link. But unfortunatly I'm barely able to copy it and paste it on my phone.
On to more spankey drama as the saga continues. But I'd hope that none of you fellas think that I'd do any shady dealings. I've got a good business to run, and I like haveing a good reputation with people. Edited by wi50 - 18 Dec 2012 at 2:11pm |
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mlpankey
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Nope i never used that crank ever because it was a hack job. It didnt have any visible purpsity though unlike yours your using from whoever do.
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Rod B
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Busted. Bless the poor sucker who bought it.
I have requested several times the name, phone number and physical adress of your shop. It's confuseing as to why you say the stroker business is good but yet claim to have sold only 2 cranks and have old friends now unhappy with you. Something smells fowl in dixie. Edited by Rod B - 18 Dec 2012 at 5:51pm |
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Butch(OH)
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Must be one of those "cast forgings" he earlier mentioned that are otherwise unknown in the engine world,, or any other. Next time you might try rod other than 6013?
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