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Ted J 
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Posted: 25 Feb 2025 at 10:40pm |
Does anyone have any pictures of one? I am looking for how it hooks up to the lift latches.
I just bought one that was on a D-14 and am going to use it on my WD45 and it only has a rod that is bent at the end and there are holes for a K-key or cotter pin. I have no idea.
Can I modify it so it will fit a WD45? Or should I trade it for one that fits the 45?
It is an Curved Shank Oxnard Model.
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Edited by Ted J - 26 Feb 2025 at 1:28am
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DiyDave
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 4:04am |
there are several kinds, I think the wd's used a drawbar mount, you bolt the drawbar to the subsoiler, and use the DB to connect to the snap coupler, IIRR. the one for my d-14 that I have experience with is a straight shank SC model... Some pictures would help... 
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 5:52am |
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Could be an older model that had the "box" that slipped over the lift arms and pinned on, and the "boxes" are missing. Is it just a rod with a loop on the end?
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 6:33am |
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 6:34am |
oopsy, kinda big..... Is this like yours ? sadly gave mine away 4 years ago when I 'lost' my storage shed.....(grrrrrrr)
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 7:26am |
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You may need to remove the PTO shaft on the WD,depends on the model of the subsoiler
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 7:52am |
gee Gary did you really mean 'drawbar' ? I know, you're having a 'senior's moment' or wishing it's only 22 days until SPRING
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 8:07am |
 jaybmiller wrote:
gee Gary did you really mean 'drawbar' ? I know, you're having a 'senior's moment' or wishing it's only 22 days until SPRING |
Go ahead and put one of those straight tongue SS on a WD and then you can go buy another PTO shaft.Have you ever even owned a WD much less know anything about it? Yea I'm having a Senior Moment,its called experience.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 8:32am |
I believe the image Jay has posted is the exact model Ted is inquiring about. Oxnard, different from the others built in Athens. The 'bible' shows a different variant of the Oxnard model but pretty sure I've seen this style in the 'Oxnard deep tillage tools' book. It's out in the shop or I would have a look there. Will report back later.
Edit; Good to see you're still with us Ted!
Edited by IBWD MIke - 26 Feb 2025 at 8:32am
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 11:02am |
I have a slightly different one than what Jay posted. It uses the drawbar and the hands have to be removed and has "gloves" if you will that go over the lift arms.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 11:13am |
jaybmiller wrote:
gee Gary did you really mean 'drawbar' ? I know, you're having a 'senior's moment' or wishing it's only 22 days until SPRING |
No Jay Gary is right they can bend the PTO shaft.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 11:26am |
wow... mine never got THAT close...... I suppose maybe different 'geometry' between WD and the D-14 ?
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 11:42am |
The pic that Jay posted is the correct one! THANKS Jay!!
Now, the question is: where can I get those two pieces? The ones that are on the ends of the lift arms that go into the lift arm latches.
Any body have them?
Thanks guys! You come through AGAIN!
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 3:19pm |
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Ted give Bill Deppe a call 563-357-2615 he may or may not have them.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 3:21pm |
If it were mine, I would hook the eye to the coupler, and very gently lift the back end up, and see whether the geometry is right, if it comes close to the PTO, trade it off. Gary is right if you bend up the PTO, its no bargain, trade it off...
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Posted: 27 Feb 2025 at 9:03am |
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PTO shafts on WD's/45's are easily removable to accommodate mounted implements. Neither of my 45's have a shaft in them except on rare occasions. Like hooking to a dyno or something important like that.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2025 at 9:27am |
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Anybody have parts book for that style subsoiler.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2025 at 1:53pm |
I have a2 bottom roll-over plow and have bent my PTO with it
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Posted: 27 Feb 2025 at 7:44pm |
IBWD MIke wrote:
PTO shafts on WD's/45's are easily removable to accommodate mounted implements. Neither of my 45's have a shaft in them except on rare occasions. Like hooking to a dyno or something important like that. |
(now Googling how to remove and return PTO on my WD).
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Edited by jvin248 - 27 Feb 2025 at 7:44pm
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Posted: 28 Feb 2025 at 8:58am |
jvin248 wrote:
IBWD MIke wrote:
PTO shafts on WD's/45's are easily removable to accommodate mounted implements. Neither of my 45's have a shaft in them except on rare occasions. Like hooking to a dyno or something important like that. |
(now Googling how to remove and return PTO on my WD).
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It's really not hard; Remove the two bolts in the carrier under the platform and the one in the dropbox shaft. Probably the hardest part will be prying it off the dropbox. If the tractor has ever ran a bush hog it will likely be mushroomed enough to not come off easily. This is why I quit bush hogging with my 45's and now use something else.
I put bolts (shorter) back in the holes for the bearing carrier. Seems like they drip a bit if you don't.
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Posted: 28 Feb 2025 at 9:12am |
Edited by PaulB - 02 Mar 2025 at 1:54pm
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Posted: 28 Feb 2025 at 6:09pm |
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The earlier pin hitch models of this subsoiler had straight bars from front to back, and would bend a PTO shaft if not removed. The curved bars like in the pictured unit would clear the PTO. I have a parts catalog from 1958 covering subsoilers, loaders, and cranes.
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