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Sub-Soiler

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Topic: Sub-Soiler
Posted By: Ted J
Subject: Sub-Soiler
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2025 at 10:40pm
Does anyone have any pictures of one?  I am looking for how it hooks up to the lift latches.

I just bought one that was on a D-14 and am going to use it on my WD45 and it only has a rod that is bent at the end and there are holes for a K-key or cotter pin.  I have no idea.

Can I modify it so it will fit a WD45?  Or should I trade it for one that fits the 45?

It is an Curved Shank Oxnard Model.

Thanks


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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 4:04am
there are several kinds, I think the wd's used a drawbar mount, you bolt the drawbar to the subsoiler, and use the DB to connect to the snap coupler, IIRR.  the one for my d-14 that I have experience with is a straight shank SC model...  Some pictures would help...Wink 

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Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 5:52am
Could be an older model that had the "box" that slipped over the lift arms and pinned on, and the "boxes" are missing. Is it just a rod with a loop on the end?

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 6:33am


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 6:34am
oopsy, kinda big.....
Is this like yours ?
sadly gave mine away 4 years ago when I 'lost' my storage shed.....(grrrrrrr)



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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 7:26am
You may need to remove the PTO shaft on the WD,depends on the model of the subsoiler


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 7:52am
gee Gary did you really mean 'drawbar' ?
 I know, you're having a 'senior's moment' or wishing it's only 22 days until SPRING


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 8:07am
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

gee Gary did you really mean 'drawbar' ?
 I know, you're having a 'senior's moment' or wishing it's only 22 days until SPRING
Go ahead and put one of those straight tongue SS on a WD and then you can go buy another PTO shaft.Have you ever even owned a WD much less know anything about it? 
Yea I'm having a Senior Moment,its called experience.


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 8:32am
I believe the image Jay has posted is the exact model Ted is inquiring about. Oxnard, different from the others built in Athens. The 'bible' shows a different variant of the Oxnard model but pretty sure I've seen this style in the 'Oxnard deep tillage tools' book. It's out in the shop or I would have a look there. Will report back later.

Edit; Good to see you're still with us Ted!


Posted By: ac160
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 11:02am
I have a slightly different one than what Jay posted.  It uses the drawbar and the hands have to be removed and has "gloves" if you will that go over the lift  arms.

This one isn't mine, but looks like it.   https://dealer-cdn.com/2tE7Sk/Mooi6y/Used_Allis_Chalmers_2_Bottom_Snap_Coupler_Plow_Ek2P6O.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://dealer-cdn.com/2tE7Sk/Mooi6y/Used_Allis_Chalmers_2_Bottom_Snap_Coupler_Plow_Ek2P6O.jpg




Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 11:13am
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

gee Gary did you really mean 'drawbar' ?
 I know, you're having a 'senior's moment' or wishing it's only 22 days until SPRING

 No Jay Gary is right they can bend the PTO shaft.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 11:26am
wow... mine never got THAT close......
I suppose maybe different 'geometry' between WD and the D-14 ?


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 11:42am
The pic that Jay posted is the correct one!  THANKS Jay!!

Now, the question is: where can I get those two pieces?  The ones that are on the ends of the lift arms that go into the lift arm latches.

Any body have them?

Thanks guys!  You come through AGAIN!


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"Allis-Express"
19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17


Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 3:19pm
Ted give Bill Deppe a call 563-357-2615 he may or may not have them.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 3:21pm
If it were mine, I would hook the eye to the coupler, and very gently lift the back end up, and see whether the geometry is right, if it comes close to the PTO, trade it off.  Gary is right if you bend up the PTO, its no bargain, trade it off...Wink

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