So how rare is a D17 Wheatland propane?

Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic

    Guys here is a good example for AGCO that the orange heritage is alive and well! Eldon and Ben your right on in your thinking that some of the gas models will get converted
however the engine serial number would be a dead give away. All of the gassers will
have a "M" prefix in the engine number like D171234M while the LP engines will be a "V"
code in the engine serial like D171234V. The "V" stands for the high compression piston,
or as we often mistake around here the the 175 gas piston. Really we should say the 175 gas tractors used the D17 LP piston as that was the original application. This isn't fool proof of course as you could simply convert a regular D17 LP tractor and I'm sure there are a few G226 power units with the LP setup. Production records indicate that
only 120 out of 11052 D17 tractors for 1959 and 287 out of 4,543 D17 tractors for 1960 had the LP engine, so yes John I would think this would make your regular propane
value go up as well. Also LP owners the high compresion piston other than an M&W to my knowledge is only available through AGCO certainly not Tisco and some of other kits available out their and I'm sure since this owners was to tight to buy new tires for the rear he would have certainly put the wrong pistons in it. Most collectors would prefer a 
locked up original to a budget overhaul job.
 So Jim this would be the 3rd D17 western found. I wonder if you could email the seller
and get the engine serial number to?  International Harvestor marketed a 460 wheatland
in this time frame also with limited production and I know they get big money for them to.

	This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
	The Forum	Parts and Services	Unofficial Allis Store	Tractor Shows	Serial Numbers	History

Author	Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic
MikeB (SD) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: NE South Dakota Points: 80	Post Options Post Reply Quote MikeB (SD) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 10:27am
	Guys here is a good example for AGCO that the orange heritage is alive and well! Eldon and Ben your right on in your thinking that some of the gas models will get converted however the engine serial number would be a dead give away. All of the gassers will have a "M" prefix in the engine number like D171234M while the LP engines will be a "V" code in the engine serial like D171234V. The "V" stands for the high compression piston, or as we often mistake around here the the 175 gas piston. Really we should say the 175 gas tractors used the D17 LP piston as that was the original application. This isn't fool proof of course as you could simply convert a regular D17 LP tractor and I'm sure there are a few G226 power units with the LP setup. Production records indicate that only 120 out of 11052 D17 tractors for 1959 and 287 out of 4,543 D17 tractors for 1960 had the LP engine, so yes John I would think this would make your regular propane value go up as well. Also LP owners the high compresion piston other than an M&W to my knowledge is only available through AGCO certainly not Tisco and some of other kits available out their and I'm sure since this owners was to tight to buy new tires for the rear he would have certainly put the wrong pistons in it. Most collectors would prefer a locked up original to a budget overhaul job. So Jim this would be the 3rd D17 western found. I wonder if you could email the seller and get the engine serial number to? International Harvestor marketed a 460 wheatland in this time frame also with limited production and I know they get big money for them to.

Sponsored Links

acben20 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: waseca Points: 988	Post Options Post Reply Quote acben20 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 1:00pm
	no i think some will take the wheatland parts off a gas tractor and put them on a factory 1960 LP tractor.

JimIA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1979	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimIA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 10:39pm
	I'm wondering if the buyer wanted it mainly because it was a wheatland(western) D17 or because it was a western LP? Either way, it will be easy enough to put the western parts on a LP tractor like Ben said. Right now I have 25 accounted for in my registry, not including what Ben owns. Most of these are gas models, two were regular 17s with the parts put on them, seven are diesels and three are LPs. Ben if you would I would like to have your numbers to put in here. If anybody else has one that I dont know if I would like to hear about them! Sorry Mike, but I did not take any engine numbers. Thanks Jim

MikeB (SD) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: NE South Dakota Points: 80	Post Options Post Reply Quote MikeB (SD) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 11:50pm
	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uez2CrDqD94 Here is a video of my neighbor's diesel version.

norm [ind] Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: BOURBON,IN. Points: 667	Post Options Post Reply Quote norm [ind] Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 7:53pm
	the western or wheatlands d-17 were ordered from factory as such june 26/1960 price book SPECIAL EQUIPMENT INCLUDES7.50-16[6PLY] FRONT AND18.4-28[6PLY] REAR TIRES ON NON-POWER ADJUSTED WHEELS,SPECIAL FENDERS AND HEAVY DUTY MAXIMUM SWINGING DRAWBAR FOR 290886[GAS] --290890 [DIESEL ] 956 LBS. $575.00 MY CONTRIBUTION FROM MY OLD PRICE BOOK AS A SALESMAN

norm [ind] Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: BOURBON,IN. Points: 667	Post Options Post Reply Quote norm [ind] Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 8:04pm
	FROM MY JUNE 26/1960 PRICE BOOK WHEATLANDS WERE ORDERED BY THE DEALER AS SPEC IAL EQUIPMENT in cludes 7.50-16 6ply front tires and18.4-28 6ply rear tires non power adjusted wheels special fenders and heavy duty maximum swinging drawbar 956lbs. $575.00 my contribution for you young guys

DarrylinWA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Amarillo Texas Points: 1898	Post Options Post Reply Quote DarrylinWA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jan 2010 at 9:03pm
	Jim Here is the serial numbers from Bob Vanderploegs 6 Wheatlands. Restored Diesel is 29789D Restored Gas 28571 Restored LP 28122 Original Mint Gas 25795 Need some work 29875D Need some work 28712 LP with no motor. Just got the serial numbers after work. Take care, Darryl Krause in Lynden WA.
	B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.

MikeB (SD) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: NE South Dakota Points: 80	Post Options Post Reply Quote MikeB (SD) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jan 2010 at 9:51pm
	Wow Darryl the original mint gas model with the serial number 25795 if that's correct could be very special, it is about 3,000 units earlier than all the rest. I wonder if Jim's recorded one earlier than that.

JimIA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1979	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimIA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jan 2010 at 10:44pm
	Thanks Darryl but I already had his numbers down. As far as the oldest one I have written down is #25747. Sorry but I will not give out the location or owner of the tractor without the permission of the owner. Jim