Pat's vs standard quick hitch on 190

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  Sometimes I am a slow learner. After messing around many years I have the idea to make hooking up things a bit easier. I had been thinking of a standard 3pt quick hitch. I had  forgotten about Pat's until I saw them on a search yesteday. Majority of the time I am putting out round bales. During winter I may use a rear blade when it snows or occasionaly brush cutter in late summer. 

 Anyone have any opions or experience using one or the other? I may have to make a couple small modifications to use the standard quick tach, but not real concerned about that part. 

 Thank you 

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elmer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 25 Oct 2019 Location: mid west Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote elmer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Pat's vs standard quick hitch on 190 Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 11:38am
	Sometimes I am a slow learner. After messing around many years I have the idea to make hooking up things a bit easier. I had been thinking of a standard 3pt quick hitch. I had forgotten about Pat's until I saw them on a search yesteday. Majority of the time I am putting out round bales. During winter I may use a rear blade when it snows or occasionaly brush cutter in late summer. Anyone have any opions or experience using one or the other? I may have to make a couple small modifications to use the standard quick tach, but not real concerned about that part. Thank you

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Randy WI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Jan 2014 Location: Ogema, WI Points: 848	Post Options Post Reply Quote Randy WI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 12:40pm
	I have a quick hitch on my JD 4066 compact and would not want any thing else also have the same set up on my JD 3032 very happy with that one to

steve(ill) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 89254	Post Options Post Reply Quote steve(ill) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 1:24pm
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	Kinda re-inforces how far ahead of the game an AC snap coupler hookup is...
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AaronSEIA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mt Pleasant, IA Points: 2578	Post Options Post Reply Quote AaronSEIA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Yesterday at 5:29am
	I don't see a point to the Pats one. You still need to mess with the top link and it'll need adjusted out much farther to compensate for the Pats being set very far back. I'd just go standard 3 pt quick hitch and be done with it if you do anything. AaronSEIA

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 22315	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Yesterday at 5:35am
	That, and in some cases the PTO shaft gets stretched out more, which might also be a negative. Moving the implement 5 inches more to the rear could require more front end weights in some applications. Edited by DrAllis - Yesterday at 5:39am

jaybmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24894	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaybmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Yesterday at 7:02am
	I'm on the other 'orange' site a lot and there's always a lot of 'problems' with 'quick hitches' 1) Not all implements are QH compatible 2) QH isn't 'standard' a cat1 QH is TRACTOR side cat1, implement side is usually cat3 ! 3) adapters are needed, $$ per implement 4) PTOs need to be extended as QH is further from tractor 5) top link attachment isn't same, need longer top link My 'cure' was to have my 3PH implement bolted to SC-3PH adapters and dedicated toplink,also bolted on. This allowed me FAST hookup and no adjustments. I know won't work for all but made my life easy.
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	It doesnt seem like aftermarket inmplent manufacturers can read a tape measure because they have no consistancy in 3 point dimensions. I tried quick hitches but it would work on one thing and not the next. The smallest tractor i have is a D17 series 4 with 3point hitch. With extendable lower links its easier to just hook straight up because i was always having to take the quick hitch off
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injpumpEd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5156	Post Options Post Reply Quote injpumpEd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Yesterday at 8:43am
	kinda funny how he had to "wait" 2 weeks to do his job he planned, when he could have just taken the quick connectors back off and hooked it up like normal, and did his thing lol! I have a rural king quick hitch on one of my 5020's and it works great for my driveway drag. I think the quick hitch is a little better since the top link is connected to it as well. You do have to put the special pins on your implement though. Edited by injpumpEd - Yesterday at 8:45am
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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 22315	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Yesterday at 9:35am
	Some of us are old enough to remember what some J.I. Case tractors had. They called it the "Eagle-Claw" hitch. You left balls on your implement lower pull pins and the draft arms were open on the top (like a quick-coupler) and had a latch to close and trap the ball once you backed in underneath and lifted the hitch to get connected. The downsides were the draft arms were solid side-to-side. No sway whatsoever. And I imagine the strength of those open draft arm ends were only good up to less than 100 HP.

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	Oliver also had the same type of jaws on the lower arms as the "EagleClaw" and the balls were left in place on the implement. in the later 50s many manufactures became aware of how much of a PIA hitching to larger 3PT equipment was becoming and most all devised some function to make hitching somewhat easier before the "quick hitch" came into being. Still nothing can be as easy as the SnapCoupler or FastHitch systems. The SnapCoupler has the advantage in that ALL adjustments stay with the implement and each is adjusted just as it was unhitched ready to work exactly as it did the last time it was used. The reason so may hitch attachments on the market don't match is something got miscalculated when switching MM to Inch measurement in countries that use kanjis for writing their words.
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elmer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 25 Oct 2019 Location: mid west Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote elmer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 hours 48 minutes ago at 8:24pm
	Thanks guys. I think if I get anything done it will be the standard 3pt quick hitch. I had seen the Pat's stuff years ago, but had forgotten about it until it popped up the other night. I don't have the need to change things often , but getting a bit older and it seems that things just don;t seem to line up when I need to so I;m lifting , pusjhing or yanking something to get it done. If I do get something on I will have to spend a little time getting implements all in order. Thank you

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	The factory Allis 3 point adapter could be left on the implement..
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	The extendable lower links on the lift arms of my factory allis 3 point hitches seem to make hooking up pretty easy for me. Darrel

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	For sure. And the fact that you can (if you remember how) raise and lower the draft arms while standing at the rear of the tractor with the engine left running, to fine tune your hook-up. The mighty One-Ninety was the first to have that feature. Series 4's and 170 thru 185 you could reach the Position Control lever easily from the rear. One just had to remember to leave the Lift/Lower hitch lever in the T.Boost position.

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	I have a quick-hitch that was on my 1066 when I bought it, think there is another one in a shed too. Haven't found an implement that it will hook to yet, Top-link is always wrong so it just sits and takes up space. One would probably work fine for semi-mount plows, which I have several of, just not nesaceary. I have a pair of fast-hitch adaptors that work great! Also have a factory IH quick-hitch that might be good but haven't tried it yet. It's also for fast-hitch tractors.