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    Posted: 07 Dec 2021 at 4:58am
Some people did some things...   Never forget that it can happen, again!Cry



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How many remember. How many believe it could happen again. As you look at the world today, it could be closer than we think.
When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!!
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It could happen again.  One thing that really scares me is, looking back 80 years ago how quickly the country mobilized and kicked up production for the war effort, planes, ships, jeeps, weapons, supplies, etc.   TODAY..... we can't even get products to the shelves in a normal economy.... we can't find workers... we can't get people to work....  Not to mention, that we had a LOT of domestic manufacturing.  Today, with our dependence upon sourcing from foreign locations, if Pearl Harbor were to happen again, the outcome would likely be different.  We would all be speaking japanese or german.  
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I was one month old. 

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We would all be speaking japanese or german. 

These days it would be Chinese and Russian.

Remember who are "ALLIES" were that we bailed out ?


Edited by steve(ill) - 07 Dec 2021 at 8:37am
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Exactly right! our fathers and grandfathers, mothers and grandmothers pulled together and won wars against several nations BY OUT PRODUCING them! we couldn't do that today because we don't have the facilities to do so. It's a fact that the US ramped up production, including building complete new factories, but not on the scale that would be necessary today. We should be producing, not consuming....Trump got that, the current administration does not!


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Originally posted by LouSWPA LouSWPA wrote:

Exactly right! our fathers and grandfathers, mothers and grandmothers pulled together and won wars against several nations BY OUT PRODUCING them! we couldn't do that today because we don't have the facilities to do so. It's a fact that the US ramped up production, including building complete new factories, but not on the scale that would be necessary today. We should be producing, not consuming....Trump got that, the current administration does not!



Exactly and on top of that I fear a very large percentage of the citizens wouldn’t step up even if we had the facilities and materials.
We’ve had 80 years to soften up.
They did not.
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came in at noon and turned on the History Channel.. Several 1 hour shows about BEFORE, DURING and AFTER... Got interviews from several guys that were GROUND ZERO on that day... Amazing.
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Originally posted by Thad in AR. Thad in AR. wrote:

Originally posted by LouSWPA LouSWPA wrote:

Exactly right! our fathers and grandfathers, mothers and grandmothers pulled together and won wars against several nations BY OUT PRODUCING them! we couldn't do that today because we don't have the facilities to do so. It's a fact that the US ramped up production, including building complete new factories, but not on the scale that would be necessary today. We should be producing, not consuming....Trump got that, the current administration does not!



Exactly and on top of that I fear a very large percentage of the citizens wouldn’t step up even if we had the facilities and materials.
We’ve had 80 years to soften up.
They did not.

  The previous DEM admin did understand that and the same DEM politicol admin today still understand it and they are making this country vulnerable on purpose.... easy to take over and destroy this country from the inside out.
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JC, You need to keep your political crap in the political section. That's where it belongs, not here!
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TV said we went from 300,000 troops to over 10 MILLION in 2 years.... I think today we have around 1.3 million in all the branches.
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Originally posted by Trawler II Trawler II wrote:

JC, You need to keep your political crap in the political section. That's where it belongs, not here! Aw, somebody must a' peed in T2's Wheaties! he's grouchy today!
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When your a snowflake, the TRUTH looks like a Furnace.
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Originally posted by LouSWPA LouSWPA wrote:

Originally posted by Trawler II Trawler II wrote:

JC, You need to keep your political crap in the political section. That's where it belongs, not here! Aw, somebody must a' peed in T2's Wheaties! he's grouchy today!



Not really, just thinking politics has a place. It doesn’t belong here.
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WWII Events Deserve Remembrance regardless how political it is to you.

My Dad and Uncle looked down upon the wreck of the Arizona from the supply ship Vestal in 1944, the salvage crews were still working to access some parts of the ship to recover remains.  They served across the Pacific in Patrol Bomber action in a PB-4Y Navy variant of the B24 Liberator.  The memory of the horrible sight of the Arizona PERMANENTLY engrained in those as well other Soldiers those days.

"Some People Did Something" needs to be placed where the Sun will never shine of the person that made said comment.
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  My dad was 10 when Pearl Harbor happened he still remembers it well. And 80 years ago we committed not to fighting a war, but winning it. In the last 50 we've lost 2 wars due to lack of interest. We either need to not go to war, which isn't always the right decision, or fight to win. Losing like this isn't good for the country. 
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Local man long since passed away was on the Battleship West Virginia at Pearl Harbor during the attack. Earl told me the Jap planes were so close he could have hit them with a flyswatter! When the abandoned ship order was given Earl said he took off his shoes jumped overboard and swam to shore.Earl served on Navy repair ships for the rest of the war as a welder. Earl said on any ship he served he made sure he was never below the water line!
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Originally posted by Trawler II Trawler II wrote:

Originally posted by LouSWPA LouSWPA wrote:

Originally posted by Trawler II Trawler II wrote:

JC, You need to keep your political crap in the political section. That's where it belongs, not here! Aw, somebody must a' peed in T2's Wheaties! he's grouchy today!



Not really, just thinking politics has a place. It doesn’t belong here.  perhaps it wasn't the message, but the presentation
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Originally posted by Dorix Dorix wrote:

  My dad was 10 when Pearl Harbor happened he still remembers it well. And 80 years ago we committed not to fighting a war, but winning it. In the last 50 we've lost 2 wars due to lack of interest. We either need to not go to war, which isn't always the right decision, or fight to win. Losing like this isn't good for the country. 
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When on the island of Hawaii last summer I met an elderly Japanese American man.
The girls were shopping so I sat on a bench out front lookin around. He came and sat beside me.
He said he lived on Ford Island as a kid. He was 8 years old when the planes flew in. Said they were so close he could see the pilots face. He said they looked full of hate.
After that his family was sent inland to a Japanese camp. He said it was tough times for quite a while for the Japanese.
When he was In His teens they moved to the island of Hawaii. He became a successful contractor. He pointed to several large resorts his company had built.
He said he never went back.
Was quite an interesting character.
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     We need to honor all those that contributed to winning WW II. My father worked as a welding instructor and inspector in several factories then later enlisted in the Navy CB's. Mother was a civilian and worked in two different ship yards near Pittsburgh that made LST's. She had a uniform but was in the Civil Service and, I think, paid by the Navy.
     Dad said that before the development of the atomic bomb the war with Japan was projected to last for 20 years. Said it was very discouraging to think of that.
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My father was on Saipan and Iwo.  He died back in 85.  I never got to ask or find out anything from him.  Like SO MANY back then, they didn't want to talk about it at all.

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My brother joined the navy, served in WW11, and then went back in for Korea. Dad was in the first world war.
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Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

WWII Events Deserve Remembrance regardless how political it is to you.

My Dad and Uncle looked down upon the wreck of the Arizona from the supply ship Vestal in 1944, the salvage crews were still working to access some parts of the ship to recover remains.  They served across the Pacific in Patrol Bomber action in a PB-4Y Navy variant of the B24 Liberator.  The memory of the horrible sight of the Arizona PERMANENTLY engrained in those as well other Soldiers those days.

"Some People Did Something" needs to be placed where the Sun will never shine of the person that made said comment.
Uh....that was DIYDave.  Now, in perfect harmony, I'm guessing you took it the wrong way.
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Tbone it was from one of the SQUAD members referring to the planes/pilots on 9-11
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Yes Dave is quoting someone else. Someone wearing a towel on their head if I recall?
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Yes he is and the sad thing just like 9/11 we had some knowledge of an upcoming event.
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Gotcha. Didn’t know that sorry.
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Guess that’s what happens when the prejudices of the political section bleed over into the varmint section.
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Well said T-bone!
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