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JW in MO 
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 Posted: 28 Jan 2011 at 8:44am |
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I like the their "NEW" double ended spoons, maybe new to them, I too have one of Dad's old double ended tire spoons that I use but I have been looking for others at sales only to find short ones. After the first couple you learn real quick especially when I had to dismount a rear tractor tire on the shop floor. I think if I can't do it on the tractor I'll haul it to town next time.
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BobHnwO
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Posted: 28 Jan 2011 at 8:47am |
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I got mine at TSC,2 short and 1 long,good quality.
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Why do today what you can put off til tomorrow.
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Brian G. NY
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Posted: 28 Jan 2011 at 8:52am |
Wendell and others have mentioned car springs. Many old time garages had tire "irons" made from car springs and they work really well. The older cars had narrow springs which worked best. They are already flat so they just need a little "dressing up" on the ends and they are not likely to break. I have picked up three really good tire "spoons" at garage sales over the years but the longest one I have is only about 2 feet. Once I got the bead broken, I was able to change the rear tires on my Allis WD using just the regular tire spoons.
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HD6GTOM
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Posted: 28 Jan 2011 at 9:42am |
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Ryan I spent 22years owinng and operating a tire shop. Go to a farm supply store near you and buy the KenTool bars. Buy a wooden handle duckbill tire hammer. Get yourself some professional tire lube, it is much slicker than soapy water. If you do not have a bead breaker, Leave the rim on the tractor, break the outside bead first, pull the outside bead off the rim, then break the inside bead, pull the tube and take the last bead off the rim. You will need 2 irons to remove remove the tire. you will need 2 irons and sometimes a pair of vicegrips to reinstall the tire, it depends on the tire ply. Most new 4 ply tires sidewalls are so flimsey you can put the inside bead on the rim without irons, just falls on. Good luck
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Dick L
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Posted: 28 Jan 2011 at 2:47pm |
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I have one tire spoon and use it some times if I can find it. If you have the tire broke down and push the opposite side bead down to the center of the old style rims you can use a coupla big screwdrivers to pry the bead over the top. Been taking tem off with screwdrivers for over 50 years.
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RyanTN
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Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 5:08pm |
Well I went ahead with this project. My blacksmith friend, Stephen, and I spent a weekend modifying some crowbars into tire spoons. We quenched and tempered each one and tested the hardness when we were finished. Again, we did this for fun, as part of our hobbies. I realize I could have bought some tools for much less effort.
Here they are all painted up. The bottom two items in the picture are a duckbill bead breaker and a little tire spoon/ split ring tool I found at a local junk tool store with the initals "HF". I didn't end up using them this time.
For my first test, I decided to use an old rusty B rim with a dry rotted tire. Here is my bead breaker, a farm jack and chain. It worked like a charm:
I got a gallon of tire mounting lube and a swab applicator at the local wholesale tool store. I had the first lip of the tire over the rim in about five minutes.
I flipped it over and was done in about ten to fifteen minutes. I didn't think that was bad for my first attempt!
Thanks for the encouragement, I had a lot of fun making the tools and trying this for myself. I encourage anyone else who is on the fence to jump right in and give it a shot.
Edited by RyanTN - 25 Mar 2011 at 5:29pm
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DMiller
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Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 5:44pm |
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I bought my Ken-Tools irons years ago at a truck tire supply shop, work you hard to use them but well worth the money I spent on them so long ago. I too have the bead hammer(8#) and four bead irons as well the irons for split rims though I do not ever intend to work split rims again.
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Ted J
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Posted: 12 Feb 2017 at 9:15pm |
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Split rims...........safest way is to take them to a tire shop and let them do it. If YOU have to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Step 1 - Get the tire and tube on the rim.
Step 2 - put the ring on the rim
Step 3 - lay the tire, ring side DOWN on the ground
Step 4 - have the air hose shut off
Step 5 - put one of those self locking chucks in the air hose and onto the valve stem. With NO valve core in the stem
Step 6 - turn on the air and fill the tire
Step 7 - insert the valve core into the stem and fill the tire again WITH the ring side DOWN against the ground
Step 8 - check for correct pressure in tire
Step 9 - lift tire off ground and drop two or three times onto the side with the ring on it.
Step 10 - If the ring didn't go BOING during the dropping and come off, mount tire onto vehicle (check the ring first to see it is set correctly first)
I did it that way for years and never had a problem. Had a few go BOING but as I wasn't even close it didn't even scare me. When you're 50 feet away, it's pretty safe that way.
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shameless (ne)
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Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 1:59am |
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now you need to buy yer buddy sum knee patches!
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DiyDave
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Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 5:10am |
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Y'all know this is a 6 year old post, doncha? Anyway, all the tire Irons I gots came from various auctions. Most came in a $45 bucket lot, split it with a neighbor, he wanted the short ones, I got the long stuff.
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LeonR2013
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Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 6:10am |
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Right Dave, it is an old post but I would like to add something. This is the way I seated the bead. After mounting the tire and getting the ring in place, I'd put 10 lbs of air in it, or just enough to bead it up. Then with the ring still up I would go around the wheel lightly tapping the ring inward starting across from the ends working both directions. These wheels can be bent by someone beating to hard on them to break the bead. So in the spot they are bent take your tire hammer and drive outward on the wheel until it fits the ring in the bent area. If I don't like the looks of it I'll add just a little air then mount on the vehicle and finish airing it up. Make sure you get the rust out of the lip of the wheel and any rust off the wheel (scale). If it's getting thin, throw the dang thing away! I was breaking one down one time and when I hit it that one last time to break the bead, the tire hammer went through the wheel. So if you don't get the scale off you don't what you've got. Leon
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Ed (Ont)
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Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 9:19am |
What size tires are you mounting? I mounted 14.9 x 28's myself. Very easy - I just used some medium sized prybars. Worked on a 4 x 8 ft sheet of plywood on front lawn. 1 beer per side. LOL. Now in fairness everything was new. New tires, tubes and new 13" rims. Old stuff is harder. Tires are stiffer etc. 
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