More wc front pedistal questions?

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   I was given another pedistal with a broken housing. I need to remove the big (verticle shaft). Can I pull it out through the top with the gear still on it? I tried to remove the gear on my old one and couldn't get the gear off. I destroyed a 3 armed china junk puller in the process. I need the big shaft to go in my original housing since the new housing is busted and has several broke bolts in it. Can I get the cork seal on the bottom of the big shaft at agco? It's the seal that goes on the spindle block. Thanks

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Thad in AR. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9560	Post Options Post Reply Quote Thad in AR. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: More wc front pedistal questions? Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 8:50pm
	I was given another pedistal with a broken housing. I need to remove the big (verticle shaft). Can I pull it out through the top with the gear still on it? I tried to remove the gear on my old one and couldn't get the gear off. I destroyed a 3 armed china junk puller in the process. I need the big shaft to go in my original housing since the new housing is busted and has several broke bolts in it. Can I get the cork seal on the bottom of the big shaft at agco? It's the seal that goes on the spindle block. Thanks

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CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 9:04pm
	Can I pull it out through the top with the gear still on it? Yes, if you remove the spindle shaft from the bottom, it should come apart. Can I get the cork seal on the bottom of the big shaft at agco? It's the seal that goes on the spindle block. I don't know if AGCO has them but I bought one through work. Probably Chicago Rawhide or National. It is not the cork, but a rubber lip seal. I did away with gear oil in my front end by packing the bearings with grease. Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 26 Mar 2011 at 8:26am
	http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF

Thad in AR. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9560	Post Options Post Reply Quote Thad in AR. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 9:11pm
	Thanks Charley I'll try again. I do have the set screw removed. I haven't tried the gear removal on the new pedistal yet. Do you use a 3 jaw puller?

CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 9:24pm
	If you have the setscrew removed completely. support the casting so you can drive the shaft down with a brass or lead hammer or any chunk of brass you can pound on. I can not get a picture to upload from my hard drive.
	http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF

CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 9:28pm
	If you open this MS photo editor you can blow it up to 150% and see all the internals. After looking at it some more, I wonder about the shoulder that the bottom thrust bearing sits on. Maybe it will separate from the vertical shaft with the spindle shaft removed. Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 25 Mar 2011 at 9:35pm
	http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF

Gary in Texas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Burkburnett, TX Points: 630	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary in Texas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 4:20am
	On my unstyled WC, I took the spindles off and lifted the shaft and gear out the top. Got the cork seal from Brenda, at Sandy Lake Imp.

HagerAC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Location: SE MN Points: 1189	Post Options Post Reply Quote HagerAC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 7:25am
	I just rebuilt the front end on a WD-45, and got all the bearings and seals needed from AGCO. And yes you can pull the big shaft out from the top. You just have to turn it correctly, and the set screw should be pointing at one of the corners and it will come right out. You will have to remove the two 5/8 bolts that hold the shaft with the worm gear on it to get it out of the way so you can pull the big shaft out. I am guessing you allready removed the crank start shaft from the housing.
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Thad in AR. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9560	Post Options Post Reply Quote Thad in AR. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 8:29pm
	Thanks for all the help guys. I got some time in the shop yesterday and got both pedistals took apart. My pedistal had good bearings and tight steering but the keyway on the big shaft was shot. I took the shaft out of the new one and the spindle block and cleaned and assembled it all back. I had to make a shim spacer to get the bearing space right and now it works perfect. I need to order the seals and install them and I should be good to go. It feels good to get progress in the right direction.