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waynem 
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waynem
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 8:34am |
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 4:31pm |
A little hard to see everything I need to see to date every detail but it looks like a 38/39/40 combo. I like that 37/early38 Zenith fuel cutoff jar type sediment bowl. The speck plate manifold is a correct for the age original. The early B covered spoke steering wheel is nice and correct.
She is a cutie.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 5:05pm |
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And the correct police might let you know there wasn't a "B" decal used till the CA came out I believe.
She is a cutie. Ken, it's a B, what else would you call it. LOL
Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 17 Aug 2011 at 5:07pm
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 5:16pm |
I'm not real shur exactly when the gas tank with the rear mounting strap became standard. Early Bs up to 1940 for shur had a bottom rear mounting bracket and no top rear strap.
Handcrank Bs used the long A & S blue and white hood transfers and no B on the nose.
Are you running a underhood muffler or a straight pipe? Either one could be considered right on a handcrank B
Does it have a pto & hydraulics or a pto delete plate on the back of the transmission?
A good shot from the rear will tell me if the seat back support straps are 38 or 39 and up. 38s are wider than standard.
Curious to see what vintage the wheels and wheel clamps are.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 5:27pm |
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Ken, was the shape of the rear strapped tank different than the early tank? The picture looks like the tank is too far forward or doesn't fit the support just right.
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waynem
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 7:05pm |
Everyone thanks for the input I am learning alot. I am running an underhood muffler.
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 9:22pm |
Well, the rear wheels, clamps and rims are not of the two early types used on early handcrank Bs. This clamp and 4 bump rim system became standard sometime in 1940 productiom along with the 5 hole bolt on wheel front wheels. The seat back supports are the standard 39 and up narrow ones.
When you restore a B and need a replacement part, pretty near everything from any year B and some C parts will interchange by bolting in or on. Main thing is get it to run and drive. Call it a 40 if you want but overall it looks more like my 39s than any 40s I have. Have fun with it and be careful when cranking.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 9:25pm |
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I found one of those PTO delete plates at Dad's when we went through his garage stuff. I wonder if the 47 C he used to have, had that originally and he added a PTO to it??
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 9:44pm |
C Tuck
I did notice the gap between the rear of the gas tank and the top edge of the tool box. I have not tried to retro fit a strap tank to a handcranker tool box so I can't comment. To whoevers credit though, the hood line and the gas tank seam line up perfectly straght front to back. I can't see in the pix how the tank strap is fastened to the tool box.
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Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 10:01pm |
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Thank you to all for helping out I think I will call it a 39. I do like the other Allis Chalmers decals my self the ones with the longer A and C & will want to replace those. I am taking it to my cabin in Upper Michigan & am going to put it to work this weekend hauling firewood. I plan to use this tractor for what it was made for work. Again thanks to all I appreciate the help & will not hesitate to ask more questions as needed.
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Posted: 18 Aug 2011 at 8:30pm |
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Good looking tractor! Enjoy it and take care of it.
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1949 B 3930 Ford- Have owned other Orange ,green,red,yellow,dark green tractors and equipment.
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Posted: 07 Aug 2016 at 9:13pm |
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how much on a kit for a zenith 206989 this is on my 38 B, thanks billy norman my address is 110 chandley road,kingston,tn 37763 for shipping
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 08 Aug 2016 at 8:06am |
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To buy parts for your tractor like the carb kit, go to the top of the page and click on (parts etc) tab. These are guys that help support this site and sell about anything you might need.
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Steve in NJ
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Our kit runs $34.50 + the ride if interested.
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Posted: 09 Aug 2016 at 6:35am |
anybody notice the Tow Vehicle? Wow and I thought I was crazy!
If you're gonna just work the tractor, it shouldn't be that hard to add hydraulics. Just remember a B is a light work tractor. I'd put some weight up front if I could.
A safety note, check to make suuure that your magneto kill switch works, and I have a long story about what can happen if the clutch pedal is allowed to go past the stop while running. So check to see if it's possible for it to go past the stop. If it does, PM me and I'll tell you the simple fix and the story.
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mrheartbeat1964
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On my 38b i have just had it for 2 weeks and got it running and driving. I really like it with all the other tractors me and my son have but got a question. Does anyone have a set of brake locks for hand brakes or did they not have any from the factory. Just checking and thanks for any help
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 09 Aug 2016 at 10:18am |
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They had them originally. Little flip over levers that attach with the front bolt on the brake covers. My '39 still has them but I don't have any spares.
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mrheartbeat1964
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Posted: 09 Aug 2016 at 10:26am |
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Would you send me a photo of them so I will know what they look like and I will try and find some. Thanks Billy Norman
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Fred in Pa
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Posted: 09 Aug 2016 at 12:26pm |
 Ken in Texas wrote:
Tall Spindle adjustable front axles became available in 1940. Most if not all 40s with this axle also had 5 stud adapter hubs and 5 hole semi-dish reversable rear wheels.
 Is your 40 equiped this way?
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That is a neat picture . There are a lot more bigger cry babies then little ones .LOL
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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 09 Aug 2016 at 2:26pm |
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I'll take some pics and post them for you, when it quits raining here!.
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Scott B
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Posted: 09 Aug 2016 at 2:39pm |
JimD wrote:
Not sure that Jeff is thinking of us, but I have been very happy with our kits. Here's a photo of one sprawled out. |
Hey Jim, whats the cost of your kits?
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mrheartbeat1964
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Posted: 09 Aug 2016 at 2:53pm |
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Thank you
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 09 Aug 2016 at 7:20pm |
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Billy. Send me a Private Message with your e-mail address and I'll send you some pics. For some reason the site won't load my pics.
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Posted: 10 Aug 2016 at 8:58am |
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Here is the second pic of the latch locked.
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mrheartbeat1964
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Posted: 10 Aug 2016 at 12:30pm |
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Thanks for the photos that will help me
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