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HudCo 
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 Posted: 10 Jan 2025 at 7:00pm |
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will these fire rings work with a composite head gasket that yoy get now? or is a differant gasket needed
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NEVER green
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Posted: 11 Jan 2025 at 9:09am |
Yes, I use them on a 426, I pull the stock clamped ones off and lay the round ones in.
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2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040 R50
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sampsonrepair
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Posted: 26 Jan 2025 at 6:16pm |
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I have a source for an old stock Victor head gasket, with or without the fire rings, my choice. (Olson Gasket) Are these good? I have some reason to believe Victor was the OEM supplier, does anyone know if this is true?
Head cracks aren't leaking. It looks as if the owner wants to roll the dice on a minimal repair. Will probably look into getting some "Mack" fire rings made and going with an OEM style gasket and lots of sealer and ARP studs.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 26 Jan 2025 at 7:02pm |
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Reddish/brownish color and I'm sure they were Victor brand at .060" or .090" thick.
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Don(MI)
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Posted: 27 Jan 2025 at 6:11pm |
Not mentioned here and rare as hens teeth... I believe the Gleaner C2 combine had the D262 engine as an option. Years ago now, had a swap done on this D19D - correct police may squawk but it's still an Allis D262 engine. 
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"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"
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RedHeeler79
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Posted: 27 Jan 2025 at 6:48pm |
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Couple questions… in the D19 pic above from Don(MI), there appears to be a tube directly behind the oil filter. Is that a blowby tube coming from the valve cover? (Assuming this is a later turbocharged D262). My series 1 D17D engine doesn’t have that “tube”, and relies on the oil filler/breather for a crankcase vent. Saw a D17D on YouTube with same tube in same location, but the hood wasn’t removed so couldn’t determine what the tube was for…. Second question, is there a part number for ARP head stud kit for D262? (Maybe different kits for early or late engines?)
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Allis dave
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Posted: 27 Jan 2025 at 6:55pm |
There wouldn't be an ARP stuf "kit" for these unless someone happened to buy, kit, and resell them. You'd need to measure what size studs you need and order them individually from an ARP dealer. That's what I did on my WD$%
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Gatz in NE
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Posted: 27 Jan 2025 at 7:02pm |
might contact Don's Diesel in Lawrance, KS
FWIW, we used to apply Permatex Hi-Tack spray to both sides of the head gasket on many autos.
My brother & I worked on an Oliver 1600 Diesel (IIRC the model #) that had a coolant leak into the oil pan. When I got new gaskets, I asked the guy for the Permatex stuff; he gave me that knowing look as if to say; “ thats the only thing that'll keep those Olivers from blowing gaskets” And it did.
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Don(MI)
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Posted: 27 Jan 2025 at 7:22pm |
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Heeler- yeah I think that is the blowby tube. I think the oem engine had it but can't remember.
This tractor is in storage now but will be firing it up this spring. Special Allis plate on the block, want to ask others about this engine to understand if it's truly identical to the D19 D stock D262 engine.... or if engineers changed anything for Gleaner C2.
The stock D19 D engine does not have this plate, and I'm thinking the gleaner it came from is newer than the production years of the D19. Hoping the engineers learned of the flaws and fixed them.
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sampsonrepair
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Posted: 28 Jan 2025 at 1:20pm |
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Pfouts has an ARP stud kit in stock. I ordered one just this morning. Not sure on part number, I'm assuming he assembles these kits himself.
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DiyDave
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Posted: 28 Jan 2025 at 2:28pm |
IIRR, I think the tube referred to is the dry air filter dirt tube. It has a rubber split stopper, that is supposed to drop dirt out, when you pinch against the direction of the slot. Again, IIRR! 
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RedHeeler79
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Posted: 28 Jan 2025 at 3:11pm |
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I bet you’re right, and I didn’t think about that. Earlier tractors like mine with the oil bath air cleaner(opposite side and in front) of course didn’t have that!
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DrAllis
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Posted: 28 Jan 2025 at 3:39pm |
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When the engine was running at full tilt, the rubber duck bills were sucked shut. Engine off and they allowed dust collected in the steel tube to empty. Hence the term "automatic dust unloader".
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