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Live Hydraulics 1941 WC ? |
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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I just bought a 1941 Allis Chalmers WC and am looking for any help on buying and installing a pump for live hydraulics. I would like to put a small bucket loader on this tractor. I have a picture of a WC with a pump and hoses mounted on the right side and a belt coming from the pulley that would run a hammer mill, etc. I was wondering if anything may be available that would run off the PTO. This is only the second tractor I have owned, and am not very knowledgeable. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ken |
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Bill Long ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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For a live hydraulic you would have to attach the pump directly to the engine. Anything attached to the belt pulley or PTO is behind the clutch and would be affected by the clutch.
I have heard of it being done and in fact, I think there are some pictures on this site some time ago that worked it. Perhaps others more knowledgeable than I on this can chime in. Good Luck! Bill Long |
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Dakota Dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3971 |
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Niether the belt pulley or PTO are live. to get livve hydraulics you need to mount the pump to the engine driven by the crank pulley.
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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I see what you mean. Maybe I am thinking wrong. I am just looking for some sort of hydraulics in order to run a loader bucket and or plow blade I guess I would have to use the clutch and then the tractor would go into neutral. Maybe off the front where the hand crank is ?
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Matt MN ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Silver lake MN Points: 1491 |
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one easy way is to have a "charlynn" pump mounted to the Pto.
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Unless your are the lead horse the scenery never changes!!
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22825 |
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Matt, he said he wanted LIVE hydraulics. It would have to be a front mount driven from the crank or a side mount belt driven pump. I have seen power steering pumps mounted off to the side like the generator and use the transmission for an extra reservoir.
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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Matt MN ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Silver lake MN Points: 1491 |
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Read his post above mine, He is looking for any type of hydraulics. I am just giving an example. |
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Unless your are the lead horse the scenery never changes!!
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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I was thinking for the PTO I may mount a winch to skid logs. Everyone needs a good winch. If I can figure this loader deal out. This will be a good tractor for around my property.
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pumpkinman ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Jul 2011 Location: S.E. Michigan Points: 252 |
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Fred in Pa had a w c with a front pump & loader for sale was going to part out 2 weeks ago may still have it.
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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I'm new here. How would I get in touch with Fred. I am in Trout Run, Pa.
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pumpkinman ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Jul 2011 Location: S.E. Michigan Points: 252 |
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freds ph # 717-451-6590
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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Called Fred, he sold it. Just my luck. Sounds like just what I am looking for.
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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NICE
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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Joe(TX) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1682 |
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Maybe like this WD setup
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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Looks like it would work. I have to get some more education so I know what I am doing. I am going to buy a manual for my WC this week. Thanks for the info.
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Dusty MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Charlotte, Mi Points: 5059 |
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![]() I took this picture at the GOTO in Tulare CA. Dusty
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917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express"
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Ductking1 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Trout Run,Pa. Points: 11 |
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Thats a rigging.
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acwdwcman ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Location: palmyra, il Points: 1075 |
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if i was you i would buy a wd or wd45 with a loader.. it would be alot easier. and you can get them for under a $1,000... but thats just my 2 cents..
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wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow
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