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DrAllis
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Posted: 04 Oct 2025 at 7:02am |
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You absolutely want 8 to 1 compression for the best power and best fuel economy. When you get a 6.5 to 1 kit (which most of them are) there is less HP and they use more gas. There is a reason there aren't drain plugs on the final drives. It is because rocks can roll in between the rim and the final drive pan and over time break off the drain plug that shouldn't be there. One quart of oil disappears quickly and then a perfectly good final drive is now toast. You will change the oil one time. It will be the last time. No drain plug needed.
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55allis
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Posted: 04 Oct 2025 at 12:13pm |
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Does this look like the right one for the money? https://www.agkits.com/Allis-Chalmers-226-Engine-Rebuild-Kit.aspx
It says they have free shipping on this kit. I was going to go with the major kit to get all the gaskets. |
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 04 Oct 2025 at 1:08pm |
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I don't see a C/R listed.
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55allis
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Posted: 04 Oct 2025 at 1:30pm |
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I emailed them on that but they are closed today, so I probably won’t hear from them until Monday.
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Posted: 07 Oct 2025 at 2:13pm |
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Replace this engine from one from a Gleaner E that is running.
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Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H
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Posted: 07 Oct 2025 at 7:09pm |
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I guess what scares me about buying this, or any tractor that isn't running, is why it was parked years ago. After spending a lot of money getting it running, other unknown problems could surface.
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Posted: 07 Oct 2025 at 7:37pm |
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Like cars, the tractors had a few things wrong like wiring and such that were annoyances but not fatal. Many things naturally fixed as a part of getting the tractor in shape to run again, like replacing wires. . |
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Posted: 07 Oct 2025 at 7:54pm |
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Replacing wires and things like that usually didn't result in tractors being parked. Transmission, differential, final drive, hydraulic, PTO and a whole long list of other MAJOR problems often led to them being abandoned.
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55allis
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 12:31am |
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If the rest is junk there might be a rebuilt engine for sale….
![]() I don’t think the back end is bad. Pulled the carb apart today and it’s very clean, even the needle wasn’t even sticky! I got a plan for tires now, going to pull the 16.9s off my wd, put them on the d17 and put my new set of 13.6R28 deep tread Firestones on the wd. Last year about this time I got one heck of a deal on a set of brand new Firestones and boy they got tread!
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55allis
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 12:29pm |
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Measured the sleeves today and found they are 4 and 1/8” bore sleeves in it.
Are they original with the 1/8th” overbore? |
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DrAllis
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 12:49pm |
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NO. A-C never used anything but 4 inch bore in that series of engine. They had four different compression ratios (6.5 to 1.....7.25 to 1......8.0 to 1.....8.25 to 1) but never were 4 1/8" bore.
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 1:06pm |
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Common rebuild kits were 1/8 inch "overbore". Stock was 4.0 inches.
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55allis
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 1:38pm |
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I wonder if it was rebuilt not long before it got parked?
Maybe I could do it right with putting new rings on all of them and put 2 new sleeves. I think I will pull the pan and check out underneath before anything is set in stone. |
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 1:39pm |
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An A-C 4 inch bore kit at 8.0 to 1 compression has more HP than a 4 1/8" does at 6.5 to 1 compression. AND uses less fuel.
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 1:44pm |
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6.5 to 1 compression ratio makes 125 psi cranking compression........7.25 to 1 makes 145 psi.........8.0 to 1 makes 165 psi.......8.25 to 1 makes 170 psi.
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55allis
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 5:08pm |
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How do you tell what pistons are what?
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 6:49pm |
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Farm Equipment Knowledge section....page one.....near the bottom..... "Compression ratios for 226 engines". These are for A-C pistons only. After-market manufacturers has to make their own claims, which many are very low.
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 7:00pm |
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Cool, now google thinks I want to see ads for 4 and 1/8 pistons on every possible social media outlet :(
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55allis
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 10:11pm |
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Thanks Doc
I did find it, looks like I have to pull a piston and measure to find out. I did some calculations and came up that with 4.125” bore would make it a 254 cubic inch engine, no clue if that right but I thought that was interesting. Looks like to get the highest compression ratio possible would be to get piston for a 175 or d17 lp |
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Posted: 08 Oct 2025 at 10:52pm |
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240 cubes and you can pull a piston and measure all you want, but the compression ratio specs are for 4 inch bore Allis pistons only. NOT any 4 1/8" pistons.
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Allis dave
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 6:46am |
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It's fairly difficult to calculate your compression ratio. I did it a few years ago. You have to get the pison to the top of it's stroke and measure to the top of the stroke and calculate that volumn. You have to know the thickness of your head gasket and calculate that. Then you also have to calculate the volumn of the dish in the piston. Dr helped me wiht this. You need to get a piece of cut glass and drill a small hole in it. Put some grease on the piston edges to seal it. Then take a suringe and fill the dish through the hole.
There other things I"m missing, but even after all this it's easy to be off a little bit. |
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 1:00pm |
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I wonder if you’d set the head gasket on the block with grease sealing the one that is getting tested.
If you guys are willing to help me I will attempt to test. I’m sure everyone is curious what the 4.125” overbore compression ratio is. I wonder if plexiglass would work? I have some pieces of plexiglass laying around I could use. |
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 1:03pm |
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First I need to get the engine to come completely loose (I got it to wiggle a bit) and that might involve the two new sleeves+rings.
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 1:56pm |
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I have internet surfed around and found a piston/sleeve kit with a p/n of SK156 that is 4 1/8" bore and has flat top pistons. I need to do some more calculations at home, but this could be the 8.0 to 1 compression ratio kit that has been talked about before. While I prefer a bowl (power crater) the higher compression is more important for making HP. Will report back with calculations.
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 2:40pm |
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Here’s a picture of the piston in it.
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 3:02pm |
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That piston looks just like the hoof on my Norwegian Fjord Horse's foot! ![]() Head gasket thickness and bore N/A? (Not Applicable/Not Available?) It is a pretty important factor there methinks ![]() |
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 3:20pm |
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It’s just an example, not for this engine.
I was going to erase what is written on it and change it to the 226 engine. Edited by 55allis - 09 Oct 2025 at 3:22pm |
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 7:57pm |
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That is an M & W piston. SP-48 was the kit p/n. Compression ratio was 7.5 to 1, just a little more than a std D-17 at 7.25 to 1. They were a 4 HP gain in a D-17 tractor. My research on the SK156 flat top kit makes me call it maybe almost 10 to 1 compression. A call to someone who sells them could give you the correct compression ratio number. 10 to 1 (210 psi cranking compression) will require 93 octane gas at a minimum and you wouldn't farm with it.
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 8:33pm |
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Posted: 09 Oct 2025 at 10:21pm |
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I’m not planning on pulling with it..
I want it able to pull a plow again and do it good!! |
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