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dandawn79 
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Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 10:22pm |
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I just bought a tractor in Charlo Montana It looks like a Allis Chalmers Model C.They told me it was a Case. Have a serial number from the block and thats it I looked the tractor over couldnt find the normal Numbers that a model c allis had.The number is GE165978PA.I would appreciate any help.Thanks Dan Dawn Pignotti Kellogg idaho
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MNLonnie
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Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 10:28pm |
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If it is a B, C or CA the serial # will be right next to the shifter and it will start with the model letter and then a # hand stamped after it. Do you have a picture you can post?
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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker
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dandawn79
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Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 10:49pm |
Here it is Been in a garage fire toasted one side.runs great. 
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MNLonnie
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Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 11:24pm |
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Looks like a B. If you post the serial # we could tell you the year.
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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker
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MikeB (SD)
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Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 11:56pm |
Looks like you found a nice B adjustable wide front. Your engine serial number kind of
intrigues me. It should read CE165978BA if so thats a really late engine number I'm guessing 1955 or 56. Thanks for posting we seem to have very few members from the
great state of Idaho. Lonnie is correct for looking for a tractor serial number if you can get that number we can tell exactly what model and year of manufactuer.
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gary ny
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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 7:48am |
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It looks to be a C ,it has the deeper dished rear wheels .Nice find with the adjustable wide front
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Mojo
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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 7:59am |
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Whats that beside it? Looks like a MM with different sheet metal.
mojo/Mike
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Brad MI
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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 9:00am |
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Not a C, it's a B. That's a B front axle and the dished rear wheels would be normal on a B of that vintage with the adjustable front axle. It's a B. I'd be interested in the serial number and seeing the rear of the tractor.
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Gary (e.c.mo)
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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 9:02am |
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The late model B"s had the heavier wheels like a C to handle the snap coupler converversion. I have seen some on earlier tractors so I guess they have been changed over time. Have a good day. Gary
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Max(ia)
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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 9:42am |
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The one next to it looks like a VAC Case to me
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 10:43am |
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That is a Case VAC next to it. Looks to have some kind of a loader on it. Had one of those once and couldn't get rid of it fast enough!
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morton(pa)
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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 11:58am |
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Yup thats a B. Take a look at the 2 holes in the torque tube. C's never came with them, CA's did. CA's never had those type of rear wheels. Positively a Late B, Somewhere Between 1952-56.
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dandawn79
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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 6:17pm |
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Well I was told it was a CASE.These guys have a business called Post Creek supply they are located in Charlo Montana.They have a lot of tractors and combines.Went in there looking for rims and tires for My Allis Chalmers C and ended up with this tractor.Still have no rims for the C.But was told that this was Case I disagreed because it looked too much like my Allis C.This tractor is in almost perfect shape with hardly any dings on the body or fenders.It was setting beside a garage that caought fire and thats why it has the burned part.I was baffled by them saying it was a CASE.
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