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SilverShield 
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 1:18pm |
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My father has recently become rather nostalgic about the AllisChalmers tractor that he used to help grandpa on the farm in northern MI. I am trying to figure out what model the tractor is by the description that he has given me and then find one that I can photograph and mat for a Christmas present for him. Dad used the tractor on the farm in the late 40's / early 50's and remembers that grandpa bought it used. The details he can remember are:
wide front tires
iron seat
4 forward gears
PTO
Any help in identifying this and even possibly where I could locate one in the Wisconsin area would be most appreciated!
Thanks,
Brad
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AllisChalmers37
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 1:34pm |
do you mean wide front end?
It sounds to me like you are talking about a WC.
If it is a WC it could be styled or unstyled.
Unstyled
styled
Or in rare cases it could be a wide front.
Unstyled
Styled
or a WF unstyled
Styled
I'm pretty sure it is one of these. They are the only ones form that time that I could find with a 4 speed forward transmission.
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JohnThomas
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 1:47pm |
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What part of Northern Michigan? That may help a bit...maybe find the dealer that was or is up here.
Allis put a lot of tractors up on here so with those & possible location you may get more info that you expected.
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tractorman
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 5:58pm |
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why not get the swinford history of allis tractors and have him pick the tractor out of the photos, then find the real one for a pic. in his memory, even if it is the wrong tractor, the photo won't lie, it will be the one. js
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 8:31pm |
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If it had a wide front and an iron seat, a U would fit the description. The iron seat disqualifies the B, and the wide fron almost disqualifies the WC, could be a WF but unlikely.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 8:35pm |
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There is a good picture of a 37 U in the classified section.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 9:36pm |
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Wide front CA ?
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SilverShield
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 10:26pm |
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Thanks for the help so far guys. The farm was in Onaway, MI, not far from Oscoda and Alpena. If you have any sources for locating dealers other than Google (which I will be trying here shortly) I would appreciate the lead.
As far as having him pick out the model from a book, the idea is to surprise him with the pictures, so I have to do this the hard way. Thanks for the idea though. And I will probably look up the book to quench my own curiosity.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 10:49pm |
Ask him if it had a starter, or if they had to hand crank it. That may help a little. Late 40s and would rule out a CA. Ask if it had sharp corners on the fenders(like the A,U,Es).
Flat floor board? Would rule out WC,WD. Tall or short. Rounded curvy gas tank or squared off like unstyled WC or U,A, etc. Big thick wide bellhousing or not. Big flat radiator with rounded top tank? Flat fan belt or V-belt? All that might help narrow it down.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 10:50pm |
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Might try taking him to a show in the area. You could look at several and ask him if any looked like grandpas.
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pumpkin man
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Posted: 03 Sep 2010 at 7:48am |
You have fall tractor pull Sept 19 in Oanaway 2 mileles north om M211.
989-733-2148 4 info. May be the place ot go
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 03 Sep 2010 at 8:34am |
I am From Onaway, well Millersburg Actually, about 10 miles from Onaway.
Our Fall Pull is on September 19th as stated by Pumpkin Man. Our Club is the Tip of the Mitt Antique Tractor Association. If you have anyquestions PM me. I am on the pull Committee.
Who is your Dad or Grandpa? We are a small town, and everyone pretty much knows everyone. I may know them or know of them, if not my dad probably does and he may remember what tractor they had. PM me if you want
Edited by DonDittmar - 03 Sep 2010 at 8:38am
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 03 Sep 2010 at 8:37am |
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The Dealer for the Onaway area at that time would have been Ormsbee Implement in Afton, MI Still in business today as an AGCO dealer. My grandpas tractors/parts came from him
Edited by DonDittmar - 03 Sep 2010 at 8:37am
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
1968 D15D,1962 D19D
Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start
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