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Rfdeere 
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Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 11:14pm |
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farmer_rob
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Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 11:21pm |
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well i dont thin kits a question about how hard it is on the pto!!!i lost count of how many times he almost lost part of his hands...totally unsafe
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if farming was easy everybody would be doing it
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farmer0_1
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Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 11:22pm |
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great idea , but i wouldn't do it for the world. i would rather run our old open buzz saw.
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denwic
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Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 11:28pm |
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Well he walked away from it this time but if'n he keeps using this thing i'm sure one day he won't
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 12:11am |
I bet he was trying to copy a super split.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 12:15am |
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I am no example of safety, but no way in hell.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 1:07am |
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that's worth 2 whew's!
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 2:21am |
Y'know, a mechanical drive isn't a bad idea at all... it has many advantages, efficiency being one of 'em... but the fact that there's no disengagement mechanism here IS a serious issue. Mechanical trip hammers were brutally effective (where steam-powered units weren't possible), and they had a mechanism that allowed them to sit, with wheels spinning idle, and only engage the hammer when you stepped on the pedal. Obviously, the design and assembly of the ram gibs suggests that his design execution is in need of a little 'experience', which he got a good lesson there. Think that if I were doing something similar, I'd install a truck axle in the driveline somewhere... power in at the pinion, out at one wheel, and make the opposite side brake the 'drive clutch', and the driving side brake a 'safety brake'. Pinion spins at constant speed, but with the drive clutch released, that side drum spins freely, and the motive side sits idle. Apply the drive clutch side brake, and the motive side starts working... release clutch and it stops (and if you use the motive side brake to stop it, the machine stops FAST... This one's almost as scary... but still, brutally effective... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40sCGb678sQ
Edited by DaveKamp - 04 Feb 2011 at 2:22am
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 3:21am |
Did you see the "rest of the story"?
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 5:23am |
 Nathan (SD) wrote:
I am no example of safety, but no way in hell. |
I'm with you brother!
A prime example of why certain people should purchase instead of design.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 5:56am |
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Ii do think that busted set of gears was probably the best thing that could have happened to him!!!
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 6:55am |
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I have done some stupid things before but none that come close to this. I may have rode into town on the turnip truck, but I was riding up front.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 6:59am |
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Thanks, but I will buy a home depot log splitter for a thousand bucks and keep my body parts.
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 7:33am |
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Some may actually make it out of the fast and stupid age to the slow and safe age. I've made it to the latter, hope he will too.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 7:39am |
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Nathan (SD)
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 8:18am |
Balers look like popular conversions. I never thought hydraulic cylinders were that hard to find.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 8:21am |
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I hate to sound like the safety police but,,,, OH never mind. Glad to hear no one got hurt.I like not scrapping stuff and making stuff out of old machinery.Make a hydaulic one and post some picks.Maybe you could use the frame and mount a pump and tank up front and still use your splitter.I like the use of the baler bed.A guy up the road made one out of a large 16' diameter metal pipe he cut in half.He found 2 old cylinders off and old backhoe loader and hooked up end to end.His stroke was like 6'.He could set 4 or 5 pieces end to end in the bottom of his trough and split them all at once.Just had to make sure they were all about the same size.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 8:23am |
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Well, aside from the obvious safety no-no's, I was going to say that I would hope he had several shear pins in the system that would go before the pto.
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Brian G. NY
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 9:12am |
That stick of elm 'bout "did 'er in". LOL
I might have built something like that in my younger days; however, I am
much too old and cautious nowadays.
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TomYaz
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 9:16am |
So the Deere baler broke! Ha!
See, I told you Deere equipment is junk!!
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 9:40am |
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I am shure he asked himself if he could do this but never had the sence to ask if he should. I hope his kids aren't around when that thing finally gets ahold of him!
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 9:47am |
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Who's going to cary the wood in when looses both hands!
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ALinIL
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 10:21am |
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You got to be kidding. Maybe he can find another use for it, like a POST DRIVER or a walnut cracker.
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Reeseholler
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 11:48am |
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I saw that a few months back. If anything else, I'm sure you could rig up a pretty good butter churn.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 12:52pm |
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Have to agree, I've had to have a finger re-attached, he's NOT going to enjoy it at all, that's if it all he looses. Hope she enjoys the insurance money, she'll be able to buy a real splitter for the new husband.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 1:10pm |
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One more thing I wanted to add, TomYaz touched on it. The big beefy Deere gearbox broke, and the tiny little gears on the PTO drop box on the ALLIS didn't. I know there are lots of technical reasons why, but it sure makes an Allis man proud!!! :-)
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 1:18pm |
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Other than the safety factor, a big factor of course, I thought he was doing good with the white pine which splits easy... then ....he started the hard stuff and I knew something was going to give...or at least I thought what is gonna happen next.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 1:29pm |
Heres 2 more people that thought makeing a baler into a log splitter was a good idea!
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 5:06pm |
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Well, there's nothing wrong with reciprocal mechanical force for splitting. Obviously, making it strong enough is important... but the biggest safety issue here, is that the action continues while someone's putting their arms in the path of peril. Yes, the ram and blade are dangerous... having arms near the WOOD is dangerous too- getting stuck in that wood as it is driven, is just as bad as getting the ram. Notice, they don't allow the ram to make full pass INTO the splitting wedge... that's a good thing.
What they could easily do to rectify most of the immediate limb-danger, is to put V-ramp sides and a chute... Drop the wood down the chute, let it land in the V, and then make the wood fall out the bottom, where pieces can be grabbed for re-split, or pushed into a conveyor for lifting into a container, basket, or wagon.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 5:29pm |
My first thought was, good idea. But at that time i was thinking it would still incorporate a hydraulic system. What an idiot.
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