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Seems all these Gleaner flex heads have this issue. My 322 is no different. There’s a major design flaw here. It’s a full 2 feet between knife and auger there’s no reason it should be that far.
I even have the updated raised feathering sheets. I just put baler belting on my reel hanging an inch or so below reel fingers seems to help sweep them in. When in the tall beans it feeds like a dream but when in the 18” or less it’s a problem.
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Get A 500 SERIES HEADER AS THAT GAP IS MUCH LESS.
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We noticed that our reel drive chain was getting too loose and when we tightened up the chain it fed a lot more even.  We also had to tighten up the cylinder drive belt, too.  Things worked fine in the dry beans last year, but this year's green bean stems are a bugger.
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A couple years ago we had the cylinder drive belt brake during wheat harvest. It was a Sunday and dad went to the parts store and bought two generic belts to finish up. We ordered a belt from agco but by bean harvest I forgot about it. I fought green stem bens plugging the cylinder for the first 50 acres. It was miserable. Finally dad and I were talking and he reminded me about that belt. I changed it and haven’t had a problem since.
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Originally posted by gleaner1 gleaner1 wrote:

Seems all these Gleaner flex heads have this issue. My 322 is no different. There’s a major design flaw here. It’s a full 2 feet between knife and auger there’s no reason it should be that far.
I even have the updated raised feathering sheets. I just put baler belting on my reel hanging an inch or so below reel fingers seems to help sweep them in. When in the tall beans it feeds like a dream but when in the 18” or less it’s a problem.
Besides moving the auger as far forward as you can and raising it 3/4" off bottom I did this.....I first had my belting (12" wide stuff staggered every other bat and over each row, means for my 15 foot in 30" rows it used 18 flaps) an inch below the reel teeth but found I needed to extend the flaps to about 3 inches past the reel teeth. I knocked on 3/4" lock washers every third of the way around the auger flighting. Takes a good vice grips and a good aim with a beefy hammer and it takes a little practice. They will never come off. I put 3" field drain tile (which measures about 3-1/2" outside diameter) behind my sickle using conduit clamps every couple feet and it flexes great with the head. And cut at an angle if you have to.

Oh and I went through and stripped the head down to get at all the ball joints, which many were rusted up. I wire brushed and oiled and greased everything up so the head flexed nicely which is also a big help in feeding and cutting even. And I clean under in that area thoroughly and oil it up before putting away under cover every year.


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Lonn I have basically the same set up as you described. I have noticed that if you do run a slug in from the end of the header the lock washers seem to grab part of the slug and carry it over the auger so that it’s not as bad when it hits the feeder beater.
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Yep and for me it turned a miserable job into mostly pleasure..... then came the R52 which I have done some things to to make it better but it was comparably a great pleasure to run from the start.... especially having the reverser. The 820 header needs just a couple of those tricks next.
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Originally posted by Lonn Lonn wrote:

Yep and for me it turned a miserable job into mostly pleasure..... then came the R52 which I have done some things to to make it better but it was comparably a great pleasure to run from the start.... especially having the reverser. The 820 header needs just a couple of those tricks next.


I have to agree completely. I plugged the feeder beater twice this year and both time I was in green butter beans where I knew better. Others than that I ran 200 acres of beans start to finish without incident.

We will be shopping for a R52/62 next year
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First thing on an 800 series header is to make a slow-down drive sprocket for the 30 inch diameter auger. Unless they've slowed them down since the first ones made, they were toooooo fast. Same RPM as the 24 inch auger, but at 30 icnh diameter too fast. Another first year engineer graduate design.
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Not sure what year mine is..... 2001?
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Lonn I’m curious if gleaners a plentiful in Russia
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Looks like they started with 19 tooth #50 chain and then slowed it down to 17 tooth and then 16 tooth. It's been 20+ years but that sounds like about what I was making my sprocket into, a 15 or 16 tooth.
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Originally posted by wekracer wekracer wrote:

Lonn I’m curious if gleaners a plentiful in Russia
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

Looks like they started with 19 tooth #50 chain and then slowed it down to 17 tooth and then 16 tooth. It's been 20+ years but that sounds like about what I was making my sprocket into, a 15 or 16 tooth.
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