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DrAllis
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Posted: 28 Oct 2025 at 8:57pm |
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Not logically. All the other bearings look fine. An oil pump failure (there is none) would have ALL bearings damaged, not one.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 28 Oct 2025 at 9:11pm |
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It doesn't float on top of the oil. It's submerged. Been too long....I think it has an air pocket to keep it raised but it can sink if oil is low or steep hill etc... Either way it's always in the oil so that's not what ruined your bearing.
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55allis
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Posted: 28 Oct 2025 at 10:35pm |
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That was what I was thinking but I wanted to make sure.
I will see if I can get it to drain and get it patched up. Probably with have to have it soldered (looks like a visit to the local blacksmith). |
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1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD, 1963 A-C D17 series 3
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Posted: 27 Dec 2025 at 9:27am |
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55Allis, how is this fence row D17 patient? Did you locate some good used sleeves/pistons/rings/etc? Or did you go with a new rebuild kit?
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55allis
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Posted: 27 Dec 2025 at 10:36pm |
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I’m planning on a complete new rebuild, figured by the time I’m done anyway it won’t cost much more.
The crank is the problem right now, it’s possibly gone too far to have it ground but the guy doing it could possibly get it built up again. Currently waiting for a phone call from him next week (possibly and hopefully) for a definite answer. I did get the head fully rebuilt (new valves, guides, and freshened up seats). Also got the rims for the WD primed and painted so I can put the 16.9s on the D17, at least then I can say it’s on the start to go together..
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1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD, 1963 A-C D17 series 3
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DrAllis
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Posted: 27 Dec 2025 at 11:56pm |
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There is zero reason for him to "build up" a crank journal when there are hundreds of used cranks laying around in salvage yards. Bearings of minus .040" should be available for that crank.
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:05am |
Things like this happen when you have a mechanic that really isn't familiar with Allis Chalmers engines. Unnecessary expensive repairs get done without anyone realizing there is a lot less expensive fix. A friend of mine has a construction business. His screening plant had an AC 125 (B, C, CA) engine on it. It started putting coolant in the oil. His mechanic, who is a very good heavy equipment mechanic, told him to get another head because the head was cracked. He gave me the old head. I took the core plugs out of it and they were rusted out (not unusual). There was nothing else wrong with the head. Sometimes paying a mechanic that is familiar with the brand you are working on is worth the extra cost.
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55allis
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Posted: 2 hours 52 minutes ago at 1:26pm |
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Not going to build up, just confirmed that the rod bearings are std and the crank was turned .020 under… Bet that really hammered/knocked when it did run!!
Guy can get me a .020/.020 under crank for $700. Is there any known cheaper options? |
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1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD, 1963 A-C D17 series 3
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Posted: 41 minutes ago at 3:37pm |
Has the crank been newly machined to .020/.020 ? If it has, the price is in the ballpark Make sure it is a crankshaft for a G-226 and not a W-226. When I look at replacement crankshafts, some say their crankshaft fits a WD45, D-17, 170 and 175. The G-226 were in the D-17, 170 and 175, but not in the WD45 (which was a W-226). They use different size bearings. Edited by WF owner - 36 minutes ago at 3:42pm |
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