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 Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 11:04am |
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there is already over 1 billion dollars in donations to help rebuild. |
Right, beginning to wonder how much it will cost? I mean, I know it's quite a church, but seems a billion would build a LOT.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 11:06am |
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in that case the local parish can rebuild for free, considering the money they've saved by NOT paying property taxes ! At least up here churches do not pay property taxes on any 'church' land
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What's your problem with that? I don't own anything as fancy as Notre Dame, yet if I stopped paying my property taxes, I would NOT have enough money to rebuild my house and farm, not by a long shot. Hard to save your way to prosperity.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 1:14pm |
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Entire lattice roofing structure makes modern truss systems appear worthless. Was key in the design to place the weight out and down not side load to the buttresses. The amount of materials is daunting, the type of wood, the sizes of timber, what looked as match sticks was often 10" square to 18" square and upward of 40 feet full span one piece. Will take an army of Tradesmen in woodworking/master carpentry to rebuild that and years to do it proficiently where as noted the tough part will be securing the timbers. Will take wood carvers as long to duplicate the spire and ornamentation.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 2:12pm |
I read today where the called they attic and spire and roof structure area "The Forest" because each structural member was from a single tree. Amazing. Just very curious what the price tag would actually be. No matter how you slice it, a billion is a lot! 
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 2:37pm |
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catholic church spends all their money settling lawsuits nowadays.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 3:01pm |
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They claim that there is no trees in France big enough to replace the main timbers so it will have to be imported
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catholic church spends all their money settling lawsuits nowadays.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 5:43pm |
If I heard it right, the government of France actually owns the church. Also heard that they need like 3,000 trees, to do the job, likely they will come from the baltic area of Europe. 
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 6:25pm |
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Loyds of London says it will take over $6 BILLION to repair......... Some local "people" are estimating $2 BILLION............ Govt says it can be done in 5 years.... Contractors say probably double that EASY.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 6:46pm |
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church's here dont pay property taxes either, my point is, if the building is church owned, than it should not fall upon any taxpayers to fund the rebuilding. give as much as you want.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 7:47pm |
I'm all for anyone donating but if the liberal SOB Trudeau decides to give MY tax money to the cause I'll be one really piZZED off person !! We've got Canadians dieing from bad water, I ain't got no doctor and have to pay to see.. I can't afford to have HIM give away any more of MY money.... Kinda hard to imagine 6 BILLION bucks for a 'roof' and pointy thing....then again repaired in 5 years ?? Heck it'll take that long to grease the palms of the 'achitects' to design something,let alone the bribes to city officials to look the other way. Hmm.. wonder if the 'yellow jackets ' will be there this weekend ?? I suppose if they 'restore' then no sprinkler systems will be mandated ??
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:22pm |
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Roman Catholic Church claims 1.2 billion members, so I'm thinking ten bucks each, and there is plenty left over, also thinking if I was a member my ten bucks would be on it's way. But on the other hand, after significant experience collection taking in church, there are a lot of church members who don't even support their own local congregation.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 12:36am |
Glad to see money rolling in for the project, rest assured they will usa all they get one way or another. JBMiller, Was reading that the stone work might have to be taken down and put back up again because of heat and water saturation...
mmm maybe before they start cutting the trees, they need to feed them fire retardant chemicals to get it in the wood. Had a wood pile given me that a fire department and sprayed retardent on, it sat for a couple years and that wood almost refused to burn after all that time and had to have some good wood to get that wood started.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 1:58am |
Fire Dept. spraying fire retardant on wood, isn't that anti job security?
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 4:27pm |
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The smoke damage and clean up alone, to the remaining structure, is going to be significant. That structure, and adjoining structures is huge. Hard to fathom without seeing it first hand.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 5:25pm |
while they debate over the design( restore or NEW style spire) they better get a huge friggin tarp over it before too long ! Twiddle your thumbs and WINTER will be there. If that happens, all could be lost.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 8:13pm |
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Don't we have a bunch of those Sequoias or Red Woods out there in California that we can donate? They should do the trick. 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
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Posted: 19 Apr 2019 at 11:26am |
Stan IL&TN wrote:
Don't we have a bunch of those Sequoias or Red Woods out there in California that we can donate? They should do the trick. 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 |
Well, France did give us the Statue of Liberty.......repay the favor?
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Posted: 19 Apr 2019 at 11:40am |
You'd have a bunch of tree huggers flipping out and probably threatening war if that were to happen.
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Posted: 19 Apr 2019 at 6:05pm |
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curley or "straight" ?
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Posted: 19 Apr 2019 at 8:02pm |
Stan IL&TN wrote:
Don't we have a bunch of those Sequoias or Red Woods out there in California that we can donate? They should do the trick. 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 |
I think they need to clear cut a bunch of them big redwood trees to make room for about 12 million new residents.
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Thad in AR. wrote:
Stan IL&TN wrote:
Don't we have a bunch of those Sequoias or Red Woods out there in California that we can donate? They should do the trick. 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 |
I think they need to clear cut a bunch of them big redwood trees to make room for about 12 million new residents. |
They have plenty of masons and brick layers that could be sent also.....
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Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 10:56am |
Thad in AR. wrote:
Stan IL&TN wrote:
Don't we have a bunch of those Sequoias or Red Woods out there in California that we can donate? They should do the trick. 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 |
I think they need to clear cut a bunch of them big redwood trees to make room for about 12 million new residents. |
The only people that can afford  to move here are the ones that are looking for free stuff. An they don't want out in the sticks. 
I am thinking I remember,  if right Sequoias don't make good lumber. Very brittle , or something. But the Redwood's that some really good stuff, for somethings. It is not the strongest, but termites didn't use to eat it. But some are worrying the termites  are changing an will eat on it today.
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Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 1:16pm |
Ray54 wrote:
Thad in AR. wrote:
Stan IL&TN wrote:
Don't we have a bunch of those Sequoias or Red Woods out there in California that we can donate? They should do the trick. 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 |
I think they need to clear cut a bunch of them big redwood trees to make room for about 12 million new residents. |
The only people that can afford to move here are the ones that are looking for free stuff. An they don't want out in the sticks.
I am thinking I remember, if right Sequoias don't make good lumber. Very brittle , or something. But the Redwood's that some really good stuff, for somethings. It is not the strongest, but termites didn't use to eat it. But some are worrying the termites are changing an will eat on it today. |
Ray are you telling me they don’t have no redwoods in the sanctuary cities.
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Posted: 21 Apr 2019 at 10:49pm |
Mostly the redwoods grow in the forest an just about all the sanctuary cities are in the city.
An there have been some enterprising folks growing BIG BUCKS cash crop under the redwoods . But them folks was kinda clannish and did not want others just wondering around in there forest .
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Posted: 22 Apr 2019 at 7:57am |
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Then they will no doubt subsidize them operations.
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