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DMiller 
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Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 7:01am |
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My old 7G has been frightful at managing to blow out hoses I intended to change at some future point, this one at least just began a slow spray.
Both Trans/Converter cooler hoses from the converter case to the engine mounted cooler and back are now history. Took them into the hydraulics shop I use regularly along with a damaged Eaton Cessna trans supply pump off my donor tractor. The crew there shuddered when saw the style of hose ends then reacted as if saw a ghost with the pump!! Hose ends(bolted flanged) are being salvaged by adding male JIC weld-ons to them(3 in total) where a conventional made up high heat hydraulic line will connect as the old style fittings no longer available. The pump is to be disassembled then inspected, lapped and resealed along with a new end plate mounting flange then tested for flow and returned. They said will be less than half the cost of a replacement pump which is also with the odd spline shaft near to impossible to find.
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HD6GTOM
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Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 8:12am |
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sounds like a good shop, and a deal on the pump.
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DMiller
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Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 8:28am |
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I can only hope so. One of the last major hydraulics repair shops for the area. Much as radiator shops they are getting ever more scarce.
Edited by DMiller - 28 Jun 2017 at 8:28am
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bauerd44
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Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 9:12am |
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Dave, would you care to share the name of you hydraulic repair shop and its location.
Thanks you. Dale
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 9:17am |
So true - finding a shop that is not just a exchange for new stuff and can actually repair things is getting hard to find . Had a shop I worked with for many years but now they moved , they did hydraulic hoses as well as clutch , driveshaft , and transmission rebuilding for heavy truck and industrial but could also do lite duty and odd things like making up specialty hoses .
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DMiller
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Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 4:59pm |
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E & E Hydraulics, Union MO (636)583-8818
Nice honest people, if they cannot help for a situation or machine they will tell you up front. Rebuild pumps, cylinders, valve bodies.
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DMiller
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Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 6:13pm |
Hoses and fittings should be here tomorrow or Friday, I will have to hand cut gaskets for the flanged heads, not a big deal. Photos:   
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Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 6:15pm |
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Guess I really should reseal the valve cover!!
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Posted: 29 Jun 2017 at 9:33am |
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Thanks for the name of your repair shop. I will file that away. Dale
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Posted: 29 Jun 2017 at 6:36pm |
Just abit of info from a AC transmission test data book for you Dave HD7G trans pump flow 15 to 17 GPM at engine hi idle rpm scavenge pump 14 to 16 GPM cheers Merv
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tits tyres and tracks
they all cost you money
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DMiller
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Posted: 30 Jun 2017 at 6:18am |
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Thanks Merv, the boys at the shop did ask if I had a clue as to flows, this will help.
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Posted: 30 Jun 2017 at 11:46am |
New hoses back on, wish I would have added 4" to the forward line, at least no leaks.  
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Posted: 30 Jun 2017 at 5:54pm |
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The split flange crimp fittings are actually pretty common, especially in oil field equipment. I'm surprised the shop went to the trouble to make adapters.
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Posted: 01 Jul 2017 at 7:15am |
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The style is available not the size of the flange and instead of o-ring seal these are gasketed. The guy showed me the measurements in their catalog and the few they do stock, close but not replacement sized. These will do, simplifies replacements later as well.
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