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genebue 
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Posted: 23 May 2011 at 7:57pm |
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gas, restored or in very good condition. would consider diesel if the price was right.
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HagerAC
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Posted: 23 May 2011 at 11:29pm |
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There is a very nice 180 gas at Isaacson Implement in Nerstrand MN, not sure if it is close to your location or not. It was just recently traded in and is very nice original.
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genebue
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 8:16am |
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I was there yesterday. It's not as nice as the picture indicates, a lot of welding and leaking fluid and an early model not late as indicated.
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ac45
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 8:26am |
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Have you ever owned a 180 gas?? Run a 180 diesel for 30 minutes and youd never go back, a diesel really shouldn't cost much more and with any use at all you will get the diference back in fuel savings.
Edited by ac45 - 24 May 2011 at 8:27am
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Larry B
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 9:56am |
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a gas is ok at least you don't have to worry about the antifreeze eating away the block. it just depends what you want to use it for.
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nsula_country
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 1:20pm |
Anti-freeze in a diesel eating the block? Enlighten me.
CT
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genebue
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 4:59pm |
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I just had to completely rebuild the block in my 6080 because the antifreeze had eaten away around the sleeves and allowed the antifreeze to leak past the 0-rings into the oil. John Deere has an additive to prevent this from happening.
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nsula_country
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 6:09pm |
I Googled this topic (diesel engine damage by improper antifreeze coolant) and found some interesting findings. I assume this is only on "wet sleeve" engines? Is the 2800 (301 cid) in the 180 a "wet sleeve" engine? I ask because I bought a 180D in February. My understanding is the combustion process creates pressure spikes in the cylinder sleeve and the rapid flexing of the sleeve can cause a partial vacuum then pressuring of the void between the cylinder sleeve and block. During this process it can create air/water pockets that burst at pressures of up to 60,000 psi, this is what causes the pitting and erosion of the cylinder sleeves. Cold weather starts can further compound this issue because of the increased tolerances between parts until at operation temp.
Good news is it happens to on-the-road vehicles more than off-the-road vehicles and stationary power units because of the constant loads and engine speeds. I will check my coolant more often and also check the formulas I buy. CT
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 7:51pm |
genebue
Here is a 185 that my Dad has for sale he retired from farming
asking $5500 obo
located in SE MN
call 507- 482-6940
Phil
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HagerAC
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 11:31pm |
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Two of my Uncles have 180 gas tractors and they are very nice tractors, good for winter and both have loaders. One uncle also has a diesel as do I and both versions have their benefits. Hope you can find one. Seems to be a few on Tractorhouse. The 180 gas tractors were only made in 1969.
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genebue
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 7:22am |
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It looks like a nice tractor. I am very interested and will give you a call. I am located in the Melrose, WI area which is close to Brownsville.
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Gary (sw Wis.)
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 8:13am |
Here one near Madison Wi. Not mine.
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 9:26am |
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As far as the antifreeze eating through all you have to do is put a water filter on it and that will take care of the problem, i know because over the years i rebuilt a 190,180, 7020 all because of this. Then when i bought a 7045 new we put the filter on it and run it over10000 hrs with no problem.
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Matt MN
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 9:36am |
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Where do you get these water filters?
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 10:10am |
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Once the pitting has started the filter isn't as effective.
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HagerAC
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 11:40am |
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I was just reading an auction bill here and there is a 180 Gas on an upcoming auction. The auction is consignment and located at Kenyon MN on June 4. You can view the bill at www.maringauction.com There were no pictures of it, but you may give them a call for details.
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