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Can WD aux Hydraulics handle JD 495a planter? |
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hardwood61 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Location: MN Points: 29 |
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I am looking a buying a John Deere 495a corn planter that has all the options, it looks huge and I was wondering if my WD would be able to handle the lifting of it if I put an auxiliary lift cylinder on it. I think it will do ok as far as pulling it ... but maybe that is an issue too. Have never used a corn planter before and only plan on planting 10-15 acres per year so I don't have a clue if this is going to work or not.
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Rfdeere ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Idaville, IN Points: 3283 |
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As long as nothing is wrong with your WD, it will lift it and pull it.
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Denis in MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Norvell, MI Points: 832 |
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It will be slow to lift if it has a standard hydraulic cyl on the planter, at least that has been my experience.
Hope that helps,
Denis
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1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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And the standard JD cylinder in the 495 days was not rated for 2250, more like 1250 psi so the small volume high pressure WD might break it.
I've planted 6 row corn and beans with a cyclo alleged planter with a MF-135. The tractor needed more weight to handle that planter, running the blower took considerable PTO HP too. More recently I planted with a JD 4 row 7000 planter and the 135 handled it with ease. I throttled back to 1500 RPM (max working speed 2250 rpm) and shifted gears up to get the desired 4.7 or 5 mph. The last time I also carried a three point sprayer and put down 32% along side the rows notill, still I kept the throttle way back at 1500 or 1600 rpm. Just a fast idle. Didn't work the tractor hard at all. I think the 495 will pull easier and that its a lighter weight planter than the 7000. Gerald J. |
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BobHnwO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Jenera Ohio Points: 693 |
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Make sure you use a high pressure cylinder!
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Why do today what you can put off til tomorrow.
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John (C-IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 1654 |
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Back in the day, 1960-1975 or so we used that combination on the farm. You do need the high pressure/low volume cylinder for the planter to lift at the desired speed.
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hardwood61 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Location: MN Points: 29 |
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hardwood61 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Location: MN Points: 29 |
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Somewhere I read about using the left lift cylinder for auxiliary hydraulics - I am guessing the connection to the planter would need to be modified but otherwise would this work? Not sure about the hose setup - would one just add extensions to the existing ones? I would not be using the lift arms anyway so that would not be a problem.
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JoeO(CMO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Cent Missouri Points: 2694 |
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the AC hp cylinder will lift it
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hardwood61 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Location: MN Points: 29 |
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Anybody have ... or know of any pictures of an auxiliary hydraulics setup on a WD? There is nothing in the owners manual that I have that says anything about setting something like this up - either with the AC lift cylinder or using a totally independent cylinder.
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Steve M C/IL ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: shelbyville IL Points: 691 |
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AC used 2 sizes of remote rams.I used the larger size to replace the 2-way cyl on my JD 7000 6-30 which I pull with my WD45.Works well.Marker cylinder hasn't failed yet!
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