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Lonn 
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 Topic: OK R.W. I'll ask this one for you unstyled WC vs
Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 8:14am |
unstyled WC vs F20 and early unstyled A Deere?
Rubber tires, first with calcium chloride filled tires for better weight and stability, high tensile steel, quick attach equipment, economy, affordability when new, speed, simplicity, snap and power, running belt equipment and PTO equipment, checking the oil with a dipstick and not stupid valves. All advantages that go to the Allis WC.
That was my Uncle Verlyn's all time favorite tractor too so it has a soft spot with me dispite the hand brakes.
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R.W
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 8:17am |
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Well I never ran any of them! But I would choose the WC anyday just because its one of my favorite AC tractors!
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Lonn
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 8:25am |
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They were built when a man thought it was sissy to ever consider any type of cab over a heat houser.
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 11:08am |
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I fember When we replaced grandpas F20 with a styled WC. he was very happy. Its was an old but well cared for WC the local dealer got for trade, dad was able to get it cheep. the dealer deliverer and hauled the F20 to the scrapyard for free. that WC was still being used every day at the saw mill till grandpa died in 1986.
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chllngr528
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 12:37pm |
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Hands down the WC. I never used either for actual work but have driven both and can't see anyway the F20 would beat the WC
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Bill Long
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 4:24pm |
Lonn, You are right when you compare an F-20 to a WC. I fully concur with all you have stated. That said, I still have a very strong feeling for the F-20. Without a live PTO it was a teriffic tractor to pull a 60 All Crop. Why? They were so slow that the combine worked better. Also, for some reason I feel the classic Farmall was the F-20. Now, if you go against the F-30 all bets are off.
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Bill Long
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 4:33pm |
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Gotta be the WC. My first tractor was a 1940 A and it only had 2 gears forward with a high low. The high side of 2nd was like 3rd in the WC. No road gear and not as pretty to look at.
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Denis in MI
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 4:46pm |
The WC definitely has them all beat on road speed and I like being able to check oil and not pour it out on the ground. I have a 38 F-20 that will out pull my 38 WC on solid ground due to the shear weight but the WC will walk on water compared to the F-20 in wet ground. Also the WC is much more nimble than the big cumbersome F-20.
Just my Opinion,
Denis
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1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14
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Michael Crowe
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Posted: 23 Mar 2011 at 7:47pm |
I no longer own this tractor, but it was fun while I had it. Regardless of the temperature, on the third crank it was off and running. Hated to sell it, but just too many things.
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