Not sure how to title this.

If your happy with the tractor then why sell it?  That would be like selling your Allis tractors off because you dont want to give AGCO business.  Wouldn't make a better statement to them if you were still wanting/only buying parts for orange?  If you like what you have and you know what you have, I dont think I would sell it.  Just my 2 cents.

Having had a rt115 and rt120, why would you willingly go backwards. I love driving my 8070, but it doesn't even come close to comfort and ease of operating of the agco tractors. I think you will really regret this decision, but good luck.

I'd say stay with what your happy with. I'm along with ya on buying other branded equipment now since they have discontinued the orange but i'm still going to stick with the brand for parts and Gleaner (as long as it can hold on). I will buy new from AGCO as long as I can get a Hesston brown, if its painted that crappy red color, i'm not affraid to tell my dealer to go to h?!! and to reply that to the company. I love Allis but I would take a RT any day. The name AGCO stands for Allis in my mind

It's tough to tell if it'll be a good financial decision or not.

I know AGCO doesn't care anything about me because I don't own any stock in the company.  I don't think it matters to them if your a big commercial farmer or small guy like me they only care about stockholders.

You know I've maybe explained it like this once before but this is really how I feel.  The RT to me is kind of like my first wife.  When I first met her I was all giddy.  I fell in love, got married thinking we'd be together forever.  Then she went and cheated on me and I forgave her and asked her to come back but she wanted to be with her old boyfriend so she didn't.  I had to go through a divorce.  It was a difficult time and oddly my gut feels similar now to when it did then.  I was giddy for the RT, fell in love, bought it thinking they'd make orange forever as they said they always would as long as people bought them.  Well orange led sales and they still dumped it.  I feel like I did everything I could and they still dumped it.  So now every time I see the RT I don't see the tractor I fell in love with I see a company that cheated on me. 

So, now like my first wife time, I see plenty of other tractors but now the first question I ask is how are you going to disappoint?  My first wife had some abuse in her life that affected her and me.  Before I got serious with my wife now I asked her if she had every been abused.   I bought Vermeer stuff as much for their design and quality as I did for the kind of company Vermeer is.  I drove five hours away just to visit the company and ask a lot of questions.  Anyway, AGCO has changed me probably for the better but we'll see.  The big thing is it's hard to find but I prefer family owned ones to wall street owned ones. 

I know.  I'm weird and psycho.  It's me and I can't explain it any better than that.  I don't expect people to understand but I appreciate you all listening.

Yeah, its a big deal, but i dont see getting that mad over it. I'd keep what you got and be proud of it. run it till it quits. it would be no different then getting rid of all our allis stuff because agco went under. whats the difference, you still have to deal with them

I would keep the tractor and put SCREW in front of the AGCO on the tractor.   That way you still get to have fun with your RT and you get to smile at the "SCREW AGCO" every time you get in the tractor.    And if for some reason, AGCO pulls their head out of their you know what, you will still be enjoying life with your RT!!    

Edited by ChuckLuedtkeSEWI - 05 Jan 2011 at 6:37pm

I bought a Drago cornhead just before the end of the year for much the same reasoning. I was interested in the Drago anyway, but I was nudged a little closer to it by the loss of the Agco brand. If we were to trade for a non Gleaner (as in Non Agco) the switch should be that much easier with a more universal head.

Unreasonable haste is the direct road to error.    Moliere

Edited by GBACBFan - 05 Jan 2011 at 8:26pm

 If the RT has the CVT, that would really be hard to part with.  Who knows what will happen in the next several years.  I was a little suprised when the orange came back in the early nineties.  The bottom line  to me is the name more than the color direction they have taken.  Lets just see what happens and hope they drop the MF name in North America in the next few years.

Byron, there are many roads, the road you choose today might notbe the road you should take...specially while one is tired or drunk.   Example... 1968 Dodge Super Bee w383Magnum and 4 spd.decked out. Fast, chick magnet, good gas milage (if you didn't put your toe in the carb) Then traded it for 1972 Dodge Challenger with 400 engine... paid money to boot, lesser options, POOR gas milage and a dog to boot.  If the goof would have 1. took a test drive  and 2. looked at it without his shades on, 3. thinking he had to have that car, he would have driven that S.Bee till it was used up.   Now have you driven anything else to know you want to trade  or sell, will the next power  be as reliable? Will it perform like this one does. Maybe this one will turn into a classic? Are you wearing blinders while you are despising agco/MF traitors?

shucks..i traded an IH i had for a 190xtD even up! i really didn't need the 190, but the deal was there and i took it! now i have a nice 190xt. guess i'll keep it for a backup machine if i need to! it's not costing me anything cept a space in the shed!

Fred if that would have really happened, There would be no Agco today. Because if it were not for the old AC guys sticking with DA and then Agco,it would have never got off the ground.  Good point,we should have done it then,and now it would be water under the bridge. But the way it has happened,for the ones of us still farming. Its 25 years ago all over again. That is what most of you on here dont understand. This is the same thing as 1985,we still use them,not just collect them. There is a BIG difference.

                                               IG

I may be getting personal here but here goes. You had mentioned that it was like your first marriage and being betrayed.  That is what the company did to you,BUT this tractor is like a child from that marriage.  You would still love that child. So why not love the tractor.  Just a thought

I'm not mad or angry or have hate towards AGCO.  I think I just feel betrayed and disappointed.  The RT isn't the child to me it's the wife.  Richenhagen is just a terrible in law. 

This also isn't a rash decision.  I went to trade in the RT a year ago but backed out because the deal changed once I did a test drive.  I've attempted two other deals but didn't think think tractors compared to what I was giving up and they wanted money to boot. 

Everyone always says put your money where your mouth is.  I do that.  I've bought an AGCO LT, RT, ST, blade, landscape rake, sunflower drill, rotary cutter, etc. because it was Allis to me.   Before every AGCO tractor I bought I asked dealers and AGCO representatives if they were committed to making orange tractors and they said they were.  The ST was bought after an upper management email confirmed that AGCO dropping orange was a rumor and two months latter they did.  Don't get me wrong I like the tractors but I bought them because they were orange and part of the Allis tradition to me.

Gleaner1 understands, IG understands.  Most of you don't own a piece of new AGCO equipment so don't understand.  Maybe if you bought AC back in the 80's or Deutz I don't know.  Thanks for listening though.

Vermeer stuff is all made in the USA except their silage baler and that's made in Europe by a company they own half of.  The cutterbars for the mowers are made by Lely, (out of Europe), but there are only two manufacturers of made in USA cutterbars that I know of.  I'm pretty sure NH is and the other is a small outfit out of TN and their made in Texas.  Both are copies of the Lely design and I'm not to keen on the NH alterations.   Hesston cutterbars are made by a second tier company out of Italy and their a copy of the Lely head too.  Vermeer is a family owned customer orientated company with some quality cutting edge products in their balers and TM mowers.  They have a complete line dedicated to the little guy, (Rebel).

Anyway, thanks for listening.