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Awesome thread!!!! Thanks for sharing, 427435!!   

Edited by clovis - 22 Nov 2010 at 9:20am
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This is for 427435. They weren't totally scrapped.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hurst Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 12:51pm
Looking at the testing ground videos, I want to know how they didn't figure out the 7000 series side panels would pop off so easily if the clips got stretched at all...  lol

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 427435 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by AllisChalmers37 AllisChalmers37 wrote:

Here's the proving grounds video. It's odd to see the old D21s and the rest of the D series being stripped down and used as compressors to put the 7000 series through it's paces.
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That brings back some old memories.  There's a reason the 7000 and 8000 tractors had robust drivetrains.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 427435 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 1:19pm
Originally posted by Nathan (SD) Nathan (SD) wrote:

This is for 427435. They weren't totally scrapped.
 



It's great to hear a prototype survived.  I suppose the "policies"  weren't worried about so much with Deutz people around.  How did you acquire it??

Have you used it and, if so, how did it perform for you??
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Originally posted by Hurst Hurst wrote:

Looking at the testing ground videos, I want to know how they didn't figure out the 7000 series side panels would pop off so easily if the clips got stretched at all...  lol

Hurst


The rubber snubbers were new then.  They are also cheap and easy to replace when the rubber gets tired.
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My 7000 has the metal clips on it, but that one clip of the open station 7000 going over what looks like utility poles half burried in the ground reminds me of what my 7000 did when I found a hidden trench while disc mowing a couple summers ago, except my left hood panel popped off and went under the rear wheel.  One of those things you can kind of laugh about now, but sure made you sick when it happened.

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Mark, it is really neat to here what was going on behind the scenes at Allis.  you have some neat stories to tell.  I look forward to more in the future, also if there is more people that worked at allis it would be neat to here their stories as well.
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Originally posted by Hurst Hurst wrote:

My 7000 has the metal clips on it, but that one clip of the open station 7000 going over what looks like utility poles half burried in the ground reminds me of what my 7000 did when I found a hidden trench while disc mowing a couple summers ago, except my left hood panel popped off and went under the rear wheel.  One of those things you can kind of laugh about now, but sure made you sick when it happened.

Hurst  


My bad.  Mixing tractors up again.  Alzheimer's is a terrible thing!!!!  LOL 

As the video showed, the rough course test was rough on stuff.  And remember the tractor was landing on concrete or the timbers------not earth.


Edited by 427435 - 22 Nov 2010 at 5:05pm
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There is more than one 8095 out there.  One is in Menomonie Wisconsin, this one has had a 426 put back it in.  The one pictured above belongs to the Hunley's and I think they have a second one as well.  Someone correct me if I am incorrect.

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Well, I have read on this forum before that the Hunleys have two them and still use them some. The way I have heard it told is they had an AC  dealership and farmed too and they had the tractors testing them when AC sold out and they just kept them. I may have the details mixed up that is what I was thinking anyway. They are in Austin In. I think.JP
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MarK: You are only two hours North of us. There are alot of Allis in the neighborhood if you would like to come down and see we would be glad to have you visit. We have other items that you might be interested in seeing.

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Hey 427435. Have you ever considered giving a talk at say like the Rochester Historical Society show. I'm sure they'd be glad to have you. Especially on the years they feature Allis. Or maybe you have done this before.
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Originally posted by daughter#1 daughter#1 wrote:

MarK: You are only two hours North of us. There are alot of Allis in the neighborhood if you would like to come down and see we would be glad to have you visit. We have other items that you might be interested in seeing.

Kelly & Sandra Lien


Thanks for the invite.  If I head to your neighborhood, I'll PM you first.
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Originally posted by Lonn Lonn wrote:

Hey 427435. Have you ever considered giving a talk at say like the Rochester Historical Society show. I'm sure they'd be glad to have you. Especially on the years they feature Allis. Or maybe you have done this before.


I'm not much of a public speaker, but I see that next year is an "Allis-Chalmers" year. 

http://www.mhrt.org/

I'll have to see if I could come up with enough material to make it worth while.




Edited by 427435 - 23 Nov 2010 at 9:50am
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Mark, There are many people that are interested in historical artifacts and stories.  You happen to posses in your memory of things that happened at A-C.  You may or may not have lots of photos or papers, but you need too sit down and write up everything you can remember about what was going on while you were there. Even the things you had learned about their history before you worked for them.
 
  I heard about a Monarch 75 with an Atlas Imperial diesel engine in it that had been sent out to Montana by Allis-Chalmers to be tested out on the Campbell Corporation farm. I called them and the fellow there told me to call another fellow that had worked for them back in the thirties, So I called him and he said he was 98 years old now and did in fact work for them back then, more in the late twenties than the thirties.
 He had a sharp memory, He told about running a Holt 120 crawler during grain harvest. It was slow but would pull 10 wagons of wheat at a time from the fields. Said you couldn't go over the hills but had to go around them while loaded. But alas he said when the Monarch showed up, he was driving truck and only seen it a few times but never got to see it work, nor did he know where it went to.
 Its stories like that that need to be written down..Like the corporation should have kept a history book or log journal of the happenings of the farm. ..I am supposing the old fellow I talked to some 12 years ago has been in the ground a long time now so I can't go and talk to him anymore to ask questions about anything else  like the story he told of a crew of fellows driving 13 Aultman Taylor tractors down from Great Falls Mt. to Forsyth and arriving with only 12...Somebody dissappeared with one.
 
 Write your stories down so the next generations can have some fun reading them and possibly fill in missing pieces of history of "what happened?" .
  That also goes for every one else that reads this, you should write the stories for your children or grandchildren and write those that been handed down to you or that you still can ask from grandpa or great great grandpa or grandmom.


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Originally posted by JC(WI) JC(WI) wrote:

Mark,  
 Write your stories down so the next generations can have some fun reading them and possibly fill in missing pieces of history of "what happened?" .
  That also goes for every one else that reads this, you should write the stories for your children or grandchildren and write those that been handed down to you or that you still can ask from grandpa or great great grandpa or grandmom.


You're right of course.  Problem is that sitting down and writing much more than what I do on several forums starts feeling like work.  If I want to work, I go out to the garage or yard!!!
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Mark, you really should write some of that stuff down. Without it, it will be lost forever.

Just a few minutes here and there over the span of a year would amount to quite a bit.

Consider writing about the stuff you take for granted, like the tool room, the die room, production problems AC had with certain tractors, the change over to Duetz, etc. It might not seem interesting to you, but it is fascinating to guys like me.

FWIW, over on redpower, one of the IH employees wrote in detail about the IH production system, the IH computer system, and building each tractor with the correct options....it was amazing to read!!!!!!!   
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I would read it!! I love hearing about the history of AC
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