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Tom, It is best if you can get a large surface area of the part facing the largest surface of the anode. Hanging the part also makes it easier to rotate to get the "dirty" side to face the anode.
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

Tom, It is best if you can get a large surface area of the part facing the largest surface of the anode. Hanging the part also makes it easier to rotate to get the "dirty" side to face the anode.
 
Thanks Chuck and Lou.
 
Having the part hang will be impractical for some of these parts so I am willing to have slower clean rate, just want to be sure it will still work.  Dont mind flipping and repositioning the part...
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THe same guy that is cleaning the old wood machines also told me "Black to the Bailey" as in planes.  so the black always goes to what your cleaning.
 I didn't think AC current would work?   
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I have not tried this yet but would like to. Is the part to be cleaned the positive or negative from the charger?
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Neg to the part!!  I use a 250 gallon tote with the top cut out of it.  
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Has anybody tried it on a much larger scale. Like a whole body of a military jeep? What happens if there is bondo on the metal? How quick do you paint after use this method?
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What happens if you have bronze bushings?
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Rawleigh, what do you use for anodes and what how far apart are they?  Got any Pics?
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I am using some old metal shelving.  I used four at a time, one on each side.  I made jumpers from wire and battery clips to string them together.  I put a cinder block in the bottom to keep the part up off the floor.

I have heard of a person digging a pit and lining it with plastic to do trailer frames.  They used a DC welder for that job.
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Ok I started mine around 5:30 PM last night. 
 
Used a 50 gal ruubermaid plastic tank waterer.
 
Used lye instead of washing soda...
 
For sacrificial anodes I bracketed the allcrop 60 piece with two MF plow landsides ..(with pleasure heheh)
 
Rested part on bottom of tank, no "hanging" I believe the plastic serves as an insulator from the other side of the equation.
 
Seems to work great...can hear the fizzing crazy like an just opened can of soda!
 
12 hours later is still fizzing; working on the rust...
 
Here is a formula I found that supposedly works even better:
 
Sodium Carbonate (washing soda) 75 grams/liter 10 0unces/U.S. gal.
Sodium Hydroxide (lye)__________12.5__________1.7
Trisodium Phosphate (TSP)_______25___________3.3
Sodium Silicate (water-glass)_____12.5__________1.7
 
Lucky for me I have a gallon of water glass laying around...(doesnt everyone?)
 
Will have to try this formula some time
 
 


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This has been a great thread...I've always wanted to try this method...thanks for the great posts everyone. 
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