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High Compression Starter help

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mlpankey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 8:24am
Originally posted by cbt1124 cbt1124 wrote:

Before you go through all the trouble of finding another "Beefed-up" starter for your tractor, why don't you pull all the plug wires off and try to crank the engine over with no spark. This will show you whether your problem is too much compression or ignition load.I believe you will find out that your problem is with advanced timing. Just my 2 cents!!! Please give it a try and let us know...
it is real easy on those tractors to engage the starter with the ignition off since they are on two different switches.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GonzoCSU Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 7:15pm
I have been out of town for the last 2 weeks.  I am finally back so here is an update on what is going on.  I took the 12 volt custom built gear reduction starter to a local machine shop and they cut a new keyway in the shaft and machined a key to fit.  I installed it on the tractor and with the ignition off the starter cranked the engine over VERY slow.  I got the engine spinning the flipped on the ignition and bang, she kicked back and the starter would just free wheel.  I pulled the starter back off and the gear inside the gear reduction was broke in half.  Pulls are pretty much done around my area now and fall field work is starting so I am putting this project on hold until the snow flies.  
I did do some checking and I was wrong the ignition is locked out.  So I think the thing I need to do now is get a starter box to retard the timing and I am going to call a custom starter shop in Minnesota to see if they can find a new gear for the reduction starter. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cbt1124 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 2:04pm
Just as I thought, it was and is an advanced timing issue. I think a starter box that does retard the timing will do the trick. Good luck and please keep us posted on the outcome of you dilemias with this fine looking tractor.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kendak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 6:46pm
you keep running it with the timing that high & you WILL be putting pistons in it ...do you want me to send you some pic. of some distroyed by detanation ?...BTDT...
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Originally posted by kendak kendak wrote:

you keep running it with the timing that high & you WILL be putting pistons in it ...do you want me to send you some pic. of some distroyed by detanation ?...BTDT...

With the timing how high?  I never said what it is timed at.  
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Come to chatsworth ga friday night or saturdy either one . bring the compression gauge you use on yours and i will show you how i start mine with a higher comp. reading  guaranteed.
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