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417 loader mounting help.

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Kenny this is exactly the picture I needed
My manual doesn't have that! Does it also show how the angle clips from u bolt to finder brackets that Dr. Talked about?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JoshDay94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2025 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by Brian G.  NY Brian G. NY wrote:

Here are some pictures from the owner's manual that may (or may not) help.






This is same manual I have the one Kenny posted must be from a different one.
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Originally posted by JoshDay94 JoshDay94 wrote:

Kenny this is exactly the picture I needed
My manual doesn't have that! Does it also show how the angle clips from u bolt to finder brackets that Dr. Talked about?
My manual mentions or shows no clips
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2025 at 5:20pm

Josh

Looking at Kenny's P. 10 Fig. 8 Picture, the R/H Loader Frame is outside the Fender Bracket, and you probably need to Power out the Power Shift Wheel to provide clearance for the Loader Frame.

As someone mentioned earlier, you'll need to keep an eye on the spacing between the 2 up-rights so that the Loader Boom will fit easily between them.

When you purchased the Loader, did you get the 2 cross braces that bolt to the side Frames.

The one that goes at the very top between the up-rights would be the important one to help maintain the correct spacing.

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See Brians picture, last one, page 23


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JoshDay94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2025 at 8:54pm
Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:


Josh

Looking at Kenny's P. 10 Fig. 8 Picture, the R/H Loader Frame is outside the Fender Bracket, and you probably need to Power out the Power Shift Wheel to provide clearance for the Loader Frame.

As someone mentioned earlier, you'll need to keep an eye on the spacing between the 2 up-rights so that the Loader Boom will fit easily between them.

When you purchased the Loader, did you get the 2 cross braces that bolt to the side Frames.

The one that goes at the very top between the up-rights would be the important one to help maintain the correct spacing.

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See Brians picture, last one, page 23


I do have the top one but I need to make a new for the bottom.
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Originally posted by Kenny L. Kenny L. wrote:




Thank you so much this helps a ton! What manual is this from?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2025 at 10:55pm

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Kenny's 1st picture (of a Ser,IV with the Traction Booster Linkage mounted to the R/H Axle Housing) was from Operators Inst. Form TM-374

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kenny L. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 2025 at 12:33am
All the material I posted come from form tm-374.
  One more thing to think about, who know what the loader been through the frame could be sprung I've one that is and couldn't tell until I tried to replace the bucket, put your top cross over on but leave the bolts loose now go to the rear mounts and get your bolts to line up you may also have to waller out a hole or two. You may or mayn't need a lot of patience. :)
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Sorry I'm late getting these photos, but here are some of the 500 loader on my Series IV.  There are spacers (~ 1/2"?) on the frame.  The rear attachment U bolts are outside the fender brackets.  The rear end of the main frame doesn't interfere with the traction booster linkage, but without the spacers, it would be close. 
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A 500 loader on a D17-19 is supposed to use spacers. No spacers on 180-185-190-200.
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Loader is on. Now just need to plumb up. Thanks for the help guys
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