Cylinder bottom door on R50

Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic

   Whenever the door blows open it takes 2 people to close and latch it. Using the official wrench, the door can be swung upwards and closed, and it stays there. The difficulty comes when trying to latch it. Turning the latch shaft has a tendency to push down the door, far enough that the door can't hook on the lip of the cylinder.  So I need a body to hold upwards on the door shaft with a socket on a breaker bar, while I set the latch with the official Gleaner wrench. 

   The latch seems to work correctly,  it snaps in cleanly and stays latched  until another slug goes up there. 

  What am I doing wrong?  Thanks, Fritz

	This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
	The Forum	Parts and Services	Unofficial Allis Store	Tractor Shows	Serial Numbers	History

Author	Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic
Fritz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 19 Feb 2024 Location: Wellington ohio Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fritz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Cylinder bottom door on R50 Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 8:37am
	Whenever the door blows open it takes 2 people to close and latch it. Using the official wrench, the door can be swung upwards and closed, and it stays there. The difficulty comes when trying to latch it. Turning the latch shaft has a tendency to push down the door, far enough that the door can't hook on the lip of the cylinder. So I need a body to hold upwards on the door shaft with a socket on a breaker bar, while I set the latch with the official Gleaner wrench. The latch seems to work correctly, it snaps in cleanly and stays latched until another slug goes up there. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Fritz

Sponsored Links

SteveM C/IL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8278	Post Options Post Reply Quote SteveM C/IL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 9:26am
	Works best if door moves freely. Easier to hold in place while snapping latch. It is a chore at least on a 62.

Fritz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 19 Feb 2024 Location: Wellington ohio Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fritz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 9:54am
	The door swings freely and claps up squarely over (under?) the opening. There are two little spring clip things that hold the door up while moving the wrench to the latching shaft, but they are no match for the force it takes to set the latch.... which isn't much.

SteveM C/IL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8278	Post Options Post Reply Quote SteveM C/IL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 12:30pm
	So yours is designed to only use one wrench? My 62 takes 2. One to hold door up and the other to lock latch. You are pulling on door wrench while pushing on latch wrench so it kinda works together.

Fritz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 19 Feb 2024 Location: Wellington ohio Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fritz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Dec 2024 at 1:14pm
	There are two hex shafts... one to swing the door up and the other (which is recessed within the combine sidewall) to rotate the latch home. Am presently using two wrenches, one to hold the door in place and the factory one to lock the latch. Problem is, there is not enough room for both wrenches to face the same direction with the belts and elevators in the way. So someone has to stand on the ground and push up on the door while I stand on the elevator and turn the latch shaft. So I figured I was doing something wrong, given my tendency to do wrong things.

darrel in ND Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8644	Post Options Post Reply Quote darrel in ND Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 2024 at 5:21am
	I'm trying to jar loose a memory here. I am pretty sure that there is a bolt on the outside of the machine that is threaded inward. When you shut the rock door, the edge of the door slides alongside the end of the bolt. You run the bolt in far enough that the door rubs tight enough against the end of the bolt to sort of use friction to hold the door closed while latching it. Darrel

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20693	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 2024 at 6:26am
	Like almost everything that is 35 years old, it just doesn't work like when it was new. Darrel is correct. There is a rubberized friction bolt that is supposed to keep the door UP (after you slam it shut) in the closed position so you just have to latch it. This might even be covered in your Operators manual as how to adjust it.

Fritz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 19 Feb 2024 Location: Wellington ohio Points: 19	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fritz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 Dec 2024 at 6:27am
	I will check that , thank you

tbran Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3314	Post Options Post Reply Quote tbran Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 35 minutes ago at 10:33am
	Fought this, we use a China cheap 3/4 " ratchet with socket and extension and a small ratchet strap. Slam the door - use the ratchet to hold close with a strap on on the handle attached to the rear to keep it from coming down. Then latch with the long bar. Keep in mind the door adjusts with the two springs opposite than normal. Read the book.
	When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..