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b 12 with sickle bar mower

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    Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 6:42am
hey guys i just bought a b 12 with a sickle bar mower and need some help, if any one else has one i need some pics possibly of the pto drive set up, my pulleys are hitting eachother when you engage the mower and i am missing a bracket and pulley that the cable that controls the bar hight so i would like to see a picture to see what it looks like thanks bill
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wildbill26 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 6:45am
pictures are small lets try again
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Wow, never saw one of those before (but I lead a sheltered life). Nice find!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wildbill26 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 1:03pm
well dont feel bad david, i have only seen 3 from pictures this is the first one i have seen up close
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We have one on a B112.I completely rebuilt ours.The are very handy but parts are hard to find.Operate at half or below throttle..
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I have one that came with my B1, but I've never mounted it.  I assume that it is complete, but won't know 'til I put it on.  I'll wade out to the shed and see if I can see any details and maybe get some pics.
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http://simpletractors.com/operation/46_sickle_bar.htm

Pages 4, 5, and 6 are the important ones.  I know people have fabbed their own bracket for the cable lift.  Not sure about the cable itself.  I have the first style one that uses the hand lift.  Plan on trying to do the conversion to the later cable style this summer along with chaning the drive to the newer style heim joint.  Can you get a picture of the pullies hitting?  That would help identify the issue.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alberta Phil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Dec 2013 at 1:17pm
Mine is the earlier model with the hand lift, so pics probably wont help as it's not mounted to the tractor.
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Thanks for posting that aaron I will check that out, mine has the cable lift just missing the bracket and pulley it has the helm joint too, I will get some pictures of the pulleys tommrow
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ok here is the pictures of the pulleys hitting, in the first one you can see the outside edge of the big pulley where the inside of the little one is hitting, the second i engaged the pto and then slid the small one so you could see the two hitting, i almost wonder if it is the wrong belt letting it do that, thanks
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That is the wrong pulley on the BGB.
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Ok, thank you Matt, what dose the correct one look like?
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Give me you email addy and Ill send you pics.

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You might have the wrong combination of belt lengths.
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ac mower guy, thats what i kinda was thinking, once i get the engine back in(bad coil) and running again im gona call sandy lake and get new belts hopefully, did all the b series have a "mule drive" thats what i call it any way, to drive the mower deck?
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The belt should be a 1/2x35".  The mule drive was the same on the B10 and B110.  Top pulley should be roughly 5" diameter.  There is a guy on eBay parting out a B112, he might have the correct top pulley.  I've attached a picture of mine, but it's hard to see how it works with the belt shield in the way.
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Thanks aaron I did contact the guy parting out the 112 about the pulley, he said he would get back to me Monday
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