b 12 with sickle bar mower
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Topic: b 12 with sickle bar mower
Posted By: wildbill26
Subject: b 12 with sickle bar mower
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 6:42am
hey guys i just bought a b 12 with a sickle bar mower and need some help, if any one else has one i need some pics possibly of the pto drive set up, my pulleys are hitting eachother when you engage the mower and i am missing a bracket and pulley that the cable that controls the bar hight so i would like to see a picture to see what it looks like thanks bill
  ------------- 1950 wd wide front w loader 1940 b, 1939 m crawler |
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Posted By: wildbill26
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 6:45am
pictures are small lets try again
 ------------- 1950 wd wide front w loader 1940 b, 1939 m crawler |
Posted By: sandman2234
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 9:41am
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Wow, never saw one of those before (but I lead a sheltered life). Nice find!! David from jax ------------- A proud member of the Allis Express movement! Northeast Florida |
Posted By: wildbill26
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 1:03pm
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well dont feel bad david, i have only seen 3 from pictures this is the first one i have seen up close ------------- 1950 wd wide front w loader 1940 b, 1939 m crawler |
Posted By: Matt Tallant
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2013 at 2:50pm
| We have one on a B112.I completely rebuilt ours.The are very handy but parts are hard to find.Operate at half or below throttle.. |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2013 at 10:30am
| I have one that came with my B1, but I've never mounted it. I assume that it is complete, but won't know 'til I put it on. I'll wade out to the shed and see if I can see any details and maybe get some pics. |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2013 at 10:37am
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http://simpletractors.com/operation/46_sickle_bar.htm" rel="nofollow - http://simpletractors.com/operation/46_sickle_bar.htm
Pages 4, 5, and 6 are the important ones. I know people have fabbed their own bracket for the cable lift. Not sure about the cable itself. I have the first style one that uses the hand lift. Plan on trying to do the conversion to the later cable style this summer along with chaning the drive to the newer style heim joint. Can you get a picture of the pullies hitting? That would help identify the issue. AaronSEIA
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Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2013 at 1:17pm
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Mine is the earlier model with the hand lift, so pics probably wont help as it's not mounted to the tractor. |
Posted By: wildbill26
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2013 at 11:22pm
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Thanks for posting that aaron I will check that out, mine has the cable lift just missing the bracket and pulley it has the helm joint too, I will get some pictures of the pulleys tommrow ------------- 1950 wd wide front w loader 1940 b, 1939 m crawler |
Posted By: wildbill26
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2013 at 2:28pm
ok here is the pictures of the pulleys hitting, in the first one you can see the outside edge of the big pulley where the inside of the little one is hitting, the second i engaged the pto and then slid the small one so you could see the two hitting, i almost wonder if it is the wrong belt letting it do that, thanks
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Posted By: Matt Tallant
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2013 at 3:35pm
| That is the wrong pulley on the BGB. |
Posted By: wildbill26
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2013 at 3:44pm
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Ok, thank you Matt, what dose the correct one look like? ------------- 1950 wd wide front w loader 1940 b, 1939 m crawler |
Posted By: Matt Tallant
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2013 at 8:31pm
| Give me you email addy and Ill send you pics. |
Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2013 at 8:49pm
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You might have the wrong combination of belt lengths. ------------- 10 various B-series garden tractors, AC Homesteader8, 416 hydro,710 gt, 914, 916H, 917H, 920D, and many misc attachments |
Posted By: wildbill26
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2013 at 8:07am
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ac mower guy, thats what i kinda was thinking, once i get the engine back in(bad coil) and running again im gona call sandy lake and get new belts hopefully, did all the b series have a "mule drive" thats what i call it any way, to drive the mower deck? ------------- 1950 wd wide front w loader 1940 b, 1939 m crawler |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2013 at 5:53pm
 The belt should be a 1/2x35". The mule drive was the same on the B10 and B110. Top pulley should be roughly 5" diameter. There is a guy on eBay parting out a B112, he might have the correct top pulley. I've attached a picture of mine, but it's hard to see how it works with the belt shield in the way.AaronSEIA |
Posted By: wildbill26
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2013 at 5:57pm
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Thanks aaron I did contact the guy parting out the 112 about the pulley, he said he would get back to me Monday ------------- 1950 wd wide front w loader 1940 b, 1939 m crawler |