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Farmer Gene 
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Posted: 28 Nov 2023 at 7:13pm |
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Has anyone put electronic ignition on a WD with a WICO XB-4000 distributor? Pertronix said they don't have an application for this distributor. Is there another company that does?
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 28 Nov 2023 at 9:17pm |
I dont know if there is something "ODD" about the 4000 model or not.. But the do make one for a WICO distributor... maybe send a photo of your inards and the shaft diameter and see if they have something "CLOSE" that you could do.....
If they are interested, you MIGHT be able to make a deal with their Engineering Dept to send them your distributor and let THEM see what would fit..... Then you BOTH win ?
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 7:02am |
The reason you can't find an electronic ignition kit for a Wico XB-4000 Distributor, is because the Wico XB-4000 is a MAGNETO.
You can find the entire manual here:
The Spec XB-4000 is a clockwise rotation 30 degree advance unit, with a condenser capacity between .30 and .34 Mfd.
The Wico XB-series is actually a bit rare in the Allis realm, MOST of the time, you'll find Bosch-style magnetos either made by Allis, American Bosch, or Fairbanks Morse. The XB had a centrifugal advance, while Bosch-pattern units used an impulse coupling, and this coupling put the Wico XB at a disadvantage when hand-starting, so the XB's were usually put on machines that were fitted with electric start from the factory.
I have two generators that are exciter-cranked were fitted the Wico XB specifically for that reason... they were never intended to be regularly hand-started.
If you're trying to affect a restoration, and your WD came originally with the XB, take it to a magneto guy and have it refurbished. If authenticity isn't a concern, and you want electronic ignition, get a distributor drive system and a Delco distributor from a donor tractor, have the Delco gone through (the distributor shaft bushing, especially) and use the common-and-popular Pertronix kit... but don't discard the XB.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 7:30am |
 DaveKamp wrote:
The reason you can't find an electronic ignition kit for a Wico XB-4000 Distributor, is because the Wico XB-4000 is a MAGNETO.
You can find the entire manual here:
The Spec XB-4000 is a clockwise rotation 30 degree advance unit, with a condenser capacity between .30 and .34 Mfd.
The Wico XB-series is actually a bit rare in the Allis realm, MOST of the time, you'll find Bosch-style magnetos either made by Allis, American Bosch, or Fairbanks Morse. The XB had a centrifugal advance, while Bosch-pattern units used an impulse coupling, and this coupling put the Wico XB at a disadvantage when hand-starting, so the XB's were usually put on machines that were fitted with electric start from the factory.
I have two generators that are exciter-cranked were fitted the Wico XB specifically for that reason... they were never intended to be regularly hand-started.
If you're trying to affect a restoration, and your WD came originally with the XB, take it to a magneto guy and have it refurbished. If authenticity isn't a concern, and you want electronic ignition, get a distributor drive system and a Delco distributor from a donor tractor, have the Delco gone through (the distributor shaft bushing, especially) and use the common-and-popular Pertronix kit... but don't discard the XB.
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spot on 
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 8:28am |
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Not that hard to convert to a Delco distributor setup. Parts readily available.
Edited by IBWD MIke - 29 Nov 2023 at 8:29am
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 1:00pm |
We offer an electronic Mag to Distributor conversion all done and ready to be installed. Comes with complete rebuilt Distributor top to bottom, drive assy, Coil of choice (6V or 12V), new plugs, carbon core spark plug wires, coil bracket, wiring & key switch along with instructions. Vist our website if interested..... Steve@B&B bb-customcircuits.com
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Farmer Gene
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Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 6:22pm |
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Thanks Steve in NJ. I will check out your web site.
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 30 Nov 2023 at 7:24am |
By the way, Gene-
You're missing a string:
But don't fret it:
Just try to stay out of treble.
Edited by DaveKamp - 30 Nov 2023 at 7:25am
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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