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Topic: WD electronic ignition
Posted By: Farmer Gene
Subject: WD electronic ignition
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2023 at 7:13pm
Has anyone put electronic ignition on a WD with a WICO XB-4000 distributor?  Pertronix said they don't have an application for this distributor.  Is there another company that does?



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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2023 at 9:17pm
I dont know if there is something "ODD" about the 4000 model or not.. But the do make one for a WICO distributor... maybe  send a photo of your inards and the shaft diameter and see if they have something "CLOSE" that you could do.....

If they are interested, you MIGHT be able to make a deal with their Engineering Dept to send them your distributor and let THEM see what would fit..... Then you BOTH win ?




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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 7:02am
The reason you can't find an electronic ignition kit for a Wico XB-4000 Distributor, is because the Wico XB-4000 is a MAGNETO. 

You can find the entire manual here:
https://oldcroak.com/wico-battery-distributor-ignition/" rel="nofollow - https://oldcroak.com/wico-battery-distributor-ignition/

The Spec XB-4000 is a clockwise rotation 30 degree advance unit, with a condenser capacity between .30 and .34 Mfd. 

The Wico XB-series is actually a bit rare in the Allis realm, MOST of the time, you'll find Bosch-style magnetos either made by Allis, American Bosch, or Fairbanks Morse.  The XB had a centrifugal advance, while Bosch-pattern units used an impulse coupling, and this coupling put the Wico XB at a disadvantage when hand-starting, so the XB's were usually put on machines that were fitted with electric start from the factory.

I have two generators that are exciter-cranked were fitted the Wico XB specifically for that reason... they were never intended to be regularly hand-started.

If you're trying to affect a restoration, and your WD came originally with the XB, take it to a magneto guy and have it refurbished.  If authenticity isn't a concern, and you want electronic ignition, get a distributor drive system and a Delco distributor from a donor tractor, have the Delco gone through (the distributor shaft bushing, especially) and use the common-and-popular Pertronix kit...  but don't discard the XB.


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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 7:30am
Originally posted by DaveKamp DaveKamp wrote:

The reason you can't find an electronic ignition kit for a Wico XB-4000 Distributor, is because the Wico XB-4000 is a MAGNETO. 

You can find the entire manual here:
https://oldcroak.com/wico-battery-distributor-ignition/" rel="nofollow - https://oldcroak.com/wico-battery-distributor-ignition/

The Spec XB-4000 is a clockwise rotation 30 degree advance unit, with a condenser capacity between .30 and .34 Mfd. 

The Wico XB-series is actually a bit rare in the Allis realm, MOST of the time, you'll find Bosch-style magnetos either made by Allis, American Bosch, or Fairbanks Morse.  The XB had a centrifugal advance, while Bosch-pattern units used an impulse coupling, and this coupling put the Wico XB at a disadvantage when hand-starting, so the XB's were usually put on machines that were fitted with electric start from the factory.

I have two generators that are exciter-cranked were fitted the Wico XB specifically for that reason... they were never intended to be regularly hand-started.

If you're trying to affect a restoration, and your WD came originally with the XB, take it to a magneto guy and have it refurbished.  If authenticity isn't a concern, and you want electronic ignition, get a distributor drive system and a Delco distributor from a donor tractor, have the Delco gone through (the distributor shaft bushing, especially) and use the common-and-popular Pertronix kit...  but don't discard the XB.
  spot on Clap

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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 8:28am
Not that hard to convert to a Delco distributor setup. Parts readily available.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 1:00pm
We offer an electronic Mag to Distributor conversion all done and ready to be installed. Comes with complete rebuilt Distributor top to bottom, drive assy, Coil of choice (6V or 12V), new plugs, carbon core spark plug wires, coil bracket, wiring & key switch along with instructions. Vist our website if interested.....
Steve@B&B
bb-customcircuits.com


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Posted By: Farmer Gene
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2023 at 6:22pm
Thanks Steve in NJ.  I will check out your web site.  


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2023 at 7:24am
By the way, Gene-

You're missing a string:

But don't fret it:

Just try to stay out of treble.


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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.



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